Visa to the UK Help & Advice

Hi
My first post, although I have been reading the forum for some time... There really are some great posts here, thanks..;

Anyway I'm looking for any helps tip or advice about obtaining a tourist visa for the Thai BF so he can come here and visit and more importantly stay with me so we can develop our relationship. It doesnтАЩt need much developing but we both think it would be good to spend some time here in the real world. (ie away from the macial land and Pattaya) even he sees it as a holiday)


ItтАЩs my first attempt at a visa, his too, and we're looking for all the help we can get, I read as much as I can and from what I understand there are three parts the embassy will look at. Proof of relationship, being able to support himself whilst in the UK and a reason to return to Thailand. From other forums I've read this means a good job, kids and or land none of which he has. The first two points are ok. Although our plan on his return to Thailand is to open a small business, laundry etc.

IтАЩm also looking for any "templates" of sponsorship / invitation letters as IтАЩve never put anything like this together before, and how to document all the supporting evidence.

If anyone can help please let me know. Has anyone had any experience with tourist visa to the UK for BF's many other forums share their stories about their GF's, is it dealt with in the same way. Also has anyone had any dealings with visa agencies and could recommend one?
I am hoping to put the first application in with the BF on my next visit in Mid Jan, I notice that on the application form it asks for dates of visits, ideally I and he would like him to stay here for the whole 6 months, is this a possibility.

IтАЩm sure I have another 100 questions just haven't come across them yet
Thanks in advance for any help

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Robah, your post actually needs many more answers from you before anyone here can give you any advice (apart from go to a Visa agent whom you only pay once you get the visa, as from what little you have said this appears far from certain).

1. Do a search of this site - you will find a considerable amount of advice which it would be pointless to repeat.

2. What do you mean by "The first two points are ok" when referring to "Proof of relationship, being able to support himself whilst in the UK and a reason to return to Thailand. From other forums I've read this means a good job, kids and or land none of which he has"? Unless I am reading this wrongly you are saying that he has no decent job, no kids and no land, which I would take as a pretty clear indication that he has no means of being able to support himself independently in the UK and no reason to return to Thailand!

3. If he is going on a tourist visa there is no requirement for a proof of relationship, nor, technically, do you have one unless you have been living here, together, for a considerable amount of time (at least 6 months, preferably 1 or 2 years). Your personal guarantee/sponsorship/invitation is largely valueless for a tourist visa application unless you can show this.

4. 6 months is a possibility, as long as he can show that he can support himself, independently, without your help, for that time - a few hundred thousand baht deposited in an otherwise empty bank account the day before the application is hardly likely to be convincing!

Visas are possible, but it is simply not possible to give any more advice without knowing more details - you must have made several visits to Pattaya, his family, etc, to have a strong relationship, so you should also have some idea already of what is feasible or not.

[allieb]

The minimum proof that he can support himself acceptable at the British Embassy.

A statement from savings account (not a new one) with a good amount of money or a working current account for which you will have to supply statements dating back 6 months or even longer if they smell a rat. As GF said its no good depositing some money in his account just before the application.

He needs to have a job and they might ask for a letter from his employer. At the end of the day then need to be convinced that he will leave the UK after his vacation.

If if he can't meet the above the only sure way to get a visit visa is to live with him in Thailand for a goodly period in what the Foreign office call a relationship a kin to marrage with proof including joint bank accounts etc.

[yaraboy]

Thaivisa website has considerable info on UK and other visas

I disagree with GoneFishing about your relationship not meaning anything.

You would - he is applying for a totally different visa, about which as far as I know you have no knowledge.

You had a verifiable long-term relationship and were living here, together - a totally different situation of a type I have mentioned.

What part of "If he is going on a tourist visa there is no requirement for a proof of relationship, nor, technically, do you have one unless you have been living here, together, for a considerable amount of time (at least 6 months, preferably 1 or 2 years). Your personal guarantee/sponsorship/invitation is largely valueless for a tourist visa application unless you can show this" do you disagree with?

Some agents "you pay the agent whether he gets the visa or not", some you pay only if he gets a visa.

If you think your agent charged 28,000 baht just to make sure your paper work was "packaged up correctly" you are even more naive than I thought.

If you want to avoid any response from me in the future, then I suggest you avoid stating that you disagree with me unless you have firm grounds for doing so - here, you do not.

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As per normal, the c*nt GF has come out for under his stinking rock to poor scorn on whatever I say.

My post was to help robah in some way if I could.

As was mine, Mind the Gap. Had you read what I said instead of rushing to disagree with me at any cost you would have seen that everything I posted was 100% correct and relevant to Robah (yours appears to refer to a totally different situation to his).

You would, for example, have seen that I did not say that his relationship was "not meaning anything" - what I said was "there is no requirement for a proof of relationship, nor, technically, do you have one unless you have been living here, together, for a considerable amount of time (at least 6 months, preferably 1 or 2 years). Your personal guarantee/sponsorship/invitation is largely valueless for a tourist visa application unless you can show this".

Attempting to score points by disagreeing with and belittling advice which is both relevant and correct, for no justifiable reason, and posting your own experience which is totally irrelevant to the poster, is pathetic; just what I have come to expect of you.

I posted my reasons for my personal dislike of you both as a person when we met and as a poster here before, and I can see no point in doing so again. As far as I am concerned our mutual dislike has little place here, so I suggest we simply refrain from casting disparaging remarks on or disagreeing with each others' posts now or in the future, as I have previously done.


(Last successful visa? Last year)

[Brad the Impala]

I posted my reasons for my personal dislike of you both as a person when we met and as a poster here before, and I can see no point in doing so again. )

Was this what happened when you first met the man that later became known to you as John Botting?

Some two years ago I was out in La Cage for a Quiz Night - highly unusual for me, but there I was. My then boyfriend of three years, now my partner, had gone to see a friend and was to collect me later (no drinking and driving for me). After the quiz I went to a neighbouring bar for a quiet drink where I made the mistake of sitting near an expat who proceeded to give me the benefit of his vast experience here (although I had lived here for four times as long as him). As I was getting up to go the toilet and get some peace my boyfriend, fortunately, appeared in the doorway; my new self-appointed mentor turned to me with a grin and said "Oh, God, another one out of the rice fields come to sell his arse - I hope he has washed his feet". I explained in simple terms that I was not going to cause a scene in the bar, but that he would regret what he had said. I then went to the toilet and by the time I came back (under a minute) he had made his escape. I asked a waiter and a doorman where he had gone and they said he had paid his bill and left quickly without finishing his drink or waiting for his change - apparently a first!

[Brad the Impala]

Robah,

I think that you need to do a little reading of your own to understand the process. The advice that you will be given here or elsewhere will be more helpful set against the background of some knowledge. For example it is just as well that Botting used a lawyer, as he doesn't seem aware of the differences between the visas, which are basically separated into Visit and Settlement visas, with a number of sub divisions in each category.

Including in those sub divisions are Tourist, usually granted for six months, OR Proposed Civil Partnership Visas, also usually granted for six months. However if you register your Civil Partnership while in the UK on a Tourist Visa, without applying for a Certificate of Approval, you are likely to have problems when you come to subsequently extend or renew that visa.

Try these two sources for further information.



www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoapply/infs/inf1generalinfo

www.uklgig.org.uk/index.htm

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