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Thread: Thailand Still A Safe Haven From Covid?

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    Thailand Still A Safe Haven From Covid?

    Covid infections have continued to spread in the Kingdom at a rate not seen before. Vaccines won’t come anytime soon, I fear this marks the beginning of a major health problem in a land that had been praised for its handling of the crisis.

    https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand...-vaccine-doses

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    Sadly I think you're probably right. Everywhere must close said the Thai govt before allowing restaurants to open. The Rayong governor was saying that people could still come and go even as cases were rising there.

    In the UK the population have shown themselves to have the responsibility of a bunch of kindergarten kids. 24 hours before lockdown in London and tens of thousands fled the city and headed to all points of the compass including to France.

    Many countries banned flights from the UK when the new strain.appeared. Then they changed their minds and let them in.

    None of the above is meant as a criticism of either govts or people. No govt is equipped to deal with this, there are no good decisions only less bad ones.

    I'll finish this mini editorial with two points. One, the vaccines are here as is the Oxford 15 minute test so the corner has been turned. And two, I read that Lord Alan Sugar's brother and sister died. Both in their 80s but their deaths are being put down solely to the virus. The death figures on this have been horribly slanted and are entirely inaccurate.

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    Re: Thailand Still A Safe Haven From Covid?

    Quote Originally Posted by arsenal View Post
    that Lord Alan Sugar's brother and sister died. Both in their 80s but their deaths are being put down solely to the virus. The death figures on this have been horribly slanted and are entirely inaccurate.
    I agree, just in the opposite way. There's researchers and data scientists doing the work now, but it will probably be another 5 or 10 years before we get a good idea of the ral number of deaths.

    For example, they will take a look at one small city, and check the number of death certificates issues. In 2019, only 120 death certificates for the city, but in 2020 a whopping 4000 death certificates were issued. However, only 120 KoVid deaths reported. There's a disrepancy somewhere there. I won't say which country this was in, because it's happening all over the world.

    All you have to do is keep an eye on the US statistics to know they're very under reported. Well, unless KoVid is courteous to take every weekend and holiday off, because the numbers always drop by around 60% and they don't get added when the weekdays begin again. Where I am in Canada they take the weekend off too, but on Monday we get three days worth of numbers, whereas in the US numbers they just pretent the weekend never happened.

    Even just common sense says this is a huge problem. Don't think it's often that Los Angeles simply runs out of hospital beds to the points some hospitals are turning away ambulances, running out of oxygen, and converting gift shops and chapels into ICUs.

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    It seems some european countries are being swamped by the new uk strain and cannot record the new infections quickly enough if at all. This is a whole different danger,and close to complete loss of control. The vaccine roll out now is the only ray of hope!
    Those farang living in Thailand may now not feel so secure, especially if "trapped" there.

    Goji and Gerefan2 , you both should consider your situations carefully before Thailand enters a complete lockdown.

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    A second stage was probably inevitable as Thailand slowly opened up. But as has been said here and as is all over Thai social media, the government should be lined up and shot for its utter ineptitude in not realising that the fish market was bound to become a flashpoint. With up to 400,000 immigrant workers of whom half are likely illegals, the total failure to institute regular testing at an early stage puts the country back virtually at square one. A quick look at what happened in Singapore more than 8 months ago gave the government plenty of warning, but corruption always rules the day in Thailand.

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    Re: Thailand Still A Safe Haven From Covid?

    I had written a proper reply to this.
    However, the useless Android version of the board interface deletes my post when I try to edit it.

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    Re: Thailand Still A Safe Haven From Covid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Armando View Post
    A quick look at what happened in Singapore more than 8 months ago gave the government plenty of warning, but corruption always rules the day in Thailand.
    What happened in Singapore? Let me think now. Ah yes, legal migrants readily identifiable were infected while living in their legal, readily identifiable dormitories. Very very similar to Thailand then?

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    Re: Thailand Still A Safe Haven From Covid?

    What do you mean the UK strain it most likely mutated every where its just the UK has the technology and resources to detect it.
    https://www.fnlondon.com/articles/a-...-know-20201223
    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-...-november.html

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    "If minks weren’t enough, attention has turned to a new strain of the virus that emerged in the United Kingdom, reported to be more transmissible than its counterparts. B.1.1.7., as the mutation is known, has prompted global chaos reminiscent of mid-March and led more than 50 countries to ban travel with the U.K. While B.1.1.7. is not reported to affect the severity of infection, it is much more transmissible than the standard variant of COVID-19—and has rapidly become the preeminent strain in southern England. A different strain—which shares a mutation with the U.K. strain—appears to have evolved separately in South Africa, where it has similarly become dominant."

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/29...cine-efficacy/

    Granted it seems to be everywhere now.

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    Re: Thailand Still A Safe Haven From Covid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moggy View Post
    What do you mean the UK strain it most likely mutated every where its just the UK has the technology and resources to detect it.
    https://www.fnlondon.com/articles/a-...-know-20201223
    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-...-november.html
    "The variant was found in an elderly patient with underlying health conditions who has since died. His wife was also infected but survived.
    The couple caught the virus after their daughter returned from a trip to Britain in mid-November, where she "in all likelihood" became infected with the new strain, the statement said."
    From the link you provided Moggy -- https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-...-november.html

    This was not meant as "slight" on the UK by the way. As Steviewonder has said the virus was expected to mutate anyway...this variant seems to have occurred in the UK.

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