success stories..gogo "boys" - Split

[latintopxxx]

heavens firecat, what r u saying. We love the fact that most are dumb and lazy.....and as for Russia , the minimum wage and cheap arse, closest I got was ukraine about 6 years ago and it was awful.

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[a447]

I've never had sex in Russia or the Ukraine. However, I'm heading off to Budapest and Prague next week and hope to be able to report some action, although I am certainly not expecting anything like Thailand.

And to be honest, I don't really care if the guys are dumb/lazy. It's none of my business, especially if I'm just having a one-off encounter. But if I'm offing a guy over multiple trips, I look for someone I can have a decent conversation with, as we spend so much time in each other's company.

[firecat69]

You can have very good luck IMHO on Planet Romeo in both those cities. The Gay Bars in Prague the boys will demand more money and not be as good looking IMHO.

Never bothered with and Gay Bars in Budapest. Sure they'll probably be lots of Syrians there. I would skip Budapest and go to Warsaw or even better Kracow.

[malchik21]

Speaking of which, is there a comparable alternative to the delights offered in the Far East? Is there, for example, although somehow I doubt it given the current situation in Russia, any possibility of a vibrant rent-boy sector being permitted in that country? I suppose, if anyone will know, surely latintopxxx will have first-hand knowledge. The reason I ask is that I was exchanging messages with a young Russian guy the other night. And I was surprised when he informed me that he earned a miserably low $280 a month, the equivalent of 9,747 baht, which surely must be very close to the national minimum wage in Thailand. He said his salary was barely enough to pay for his food and rent, something that sounds very familiar.

Sorry but as a regular visitor to Moscow I am afraid that the gay scene is as good as dead here. I can not speak for the whole of Russia but Moscow is very homophobic these days. Before no one cared less. Yes there are the gay bars and clubs but there are frequently targeted by the authorities and far right thugs (Putin's Youth). Some cute boys you see on the dating websites are not for real, if you see what I mean. The main gay cruising area, Kitai Gorad (China Town), where before the hard up student would go, is heavily patrolled by police. Just not worth the risk despite some Russian boys that I have meet over the years were incredibly beautiful. I would imagine that Ukraine would be OK. Plenty of cute boys there and are up for anything if it involves some extra cash. Anyway Pattaya next week for me and I can not f****ing wait.

[Dodger]

firecat69 wrote:

I would skip Budapest and go to Warsaw or even better Kracow.

According to some reading I was doing, your suggestion to a447 regarding "Krakow" seems to be spot on.

See this link for some interesting reading:

http://www.gayguides.com/gay-krakow/

[scottish-guy]

Dodger, thanks for providing the link but if I may I'll take the report with a huge pinch of salt.

Clearly someone has already dragged the original topic WAY off to the side, so I don't feel bad about continuing that trend.

I have identified Krakow as a possible destination a number of times over the years but when I've looked into it, the hyperbole of one source often does not match the reality from others, so I haven't followed through on a visit.

In the link you posted it describes Krakow as having "..tons of Gay bars" yet does not/cannot not name a single one.

Spartacus (2014) is not so reticent - it lists precisely ZERO bars.

However it does list 5 "Men's Clubs" which are all fairly late night venues and not what I'd call bars at all:

One, (Blue XL) offers sex-parties and advises "entry from the back" (sounds about right!)
Another (Ciemnia) apparently is a cruising venue which offers naked and underwear parties and apparently - deep penetration - "go to the end of the passage" it says!
Another (Wild Club - above Blue XL club and open only late at night on Fri/Sat) in which the dress code is "underwear or nothing"! I think I'd be ejected for ugliness.
Number 4 (Cocon) is a large late-night gay "disco" with Karaoke on Thursdays, Oldies on Fri (clearly the day for SGT members to visit and a house party on Saturday. It all sounds far too noisy for me and I'm willing to bet the "Oldies" are from the 2000's rather than Eartha Kitt and Donna Summer
The final contender (LaF) caters for lesbians with "lots of girls" (how that even qualifies as a gay "Men's Club" escapes me)

Moving on to the linked report of "many rescorts and rent boys in the bars" - Spartacus uses an "R" to denote this at a venue and is usually very reliable in Europe. None of the venues has an "R", so I'm rather sceptical.

That's not to say I'd advise anybody against visiting Krakow for gay fun - but it does seem the linked article may be somewhat exaggerating the situation.

If I visited I think I'd only do so as part of a multi-centre eastern europe trip - on the basis that disappointment in one place may be mitigated by success in another!

I've been very disappointed before in the likes of Budapest where reports were grossly exaggerated and I found very little gay activity - about 4 bars containing precisely nothing of interest, and whilst there's plenty of fanny (the UK version) available on the streets I found no cock at all down at the river where it was alleged to be rampant.

The only place I've found worthwhile in that area of the world is Prague and having returned there 2 or 3 yrs ago I can say that whilst it is still well worth a visit, it is not even a SHADOW of what it was when I was a regular visitor in the 1990's

From his recommendations, it seems Firecat has some personal experience of Poland - I'd be very interested to hear it as the flight to Poland is but a short hop compared to Thailand. Whether such a discussion belongs here or needs to be moved is a matter for Surfy.

[Surfcrest]

RE: success stories..gogo "boys" - Split Topic

The preceeding side discussion about Europe and Russia was split from success stories..gogo "boys"

http://sawatdeenetwork.com/forum/suc...5.html#p305633

Surfcrest

[firecat69]

Not sure if you will be able to see this but it was more of a tourist post on my trip this year to Kracow with straight friends. However I was able to see 2 Hot Boys, 1 from Romeo and I believe the other was from Jackd. I did post 1 photo. Both were great and it is now high on my list to return. Just so cheap for great food , music , apartments etc.

You may have to register at Boytoy but there is no charge and you will be able to see the photos and the 1 Boy I posted a photo of.

http://www.boytoy.com/forums/index.php? ... ow-poland/

It is not apparent to me how to post photos here or I would have??

I did not have the time or freedom to explore what Clubs there are so cannot comment>

[Jellybean]

. . . I'm heading off to Budapest and Prague next week and hope to be able to report some action . . .

Fourteen years ago I visited Prague and Budapest with two friends and had a great time a447. We found lots of sex in the saunas, nightclubs and sleazy bars. That was before I started paying for sex, so I donтАЩt know anything about the rent-boy scene. Out of the two cities we preferred Prague and planned to return the following year, but I became ill and had to cancel.

Hope you have a great time and I look forward to reading your unexpurgated trip reports. Oh, by the way, are you going alone or are you taking a friend?

Sorry a447, I couldnтАЩt resist that.

Sorry but as a regular visitor to Moscow I am afraid that the gay scene is as good as dead here . . .

Thank you malchik21 for posting such a detailed reply. Hmmm . . . you confirmed my worst fears. Sounds like any thoughts of going to Russia will have to remain a fantasy.

Ah, so you are off to Pattaya next week; lucky you! I hope you have a f***ing great time!

Do try and find time to let us have a trip report.

[bruce_nyc]

I doubt that anyplace in the world can compare to the ease, availability, professionalism, and value..... of the "industry" we know in Pattaya and Bangkok. Although it exists everywhere in the world, it's almost always hidden, secretive, unreliable, unsafe, overrated, and/or expensive..... and disappointing.... everywhere else in the world.

Although we all wish it was like this everywhere....

There's no place like Thailand.