Hi folks,having spent the last 5 years on holiday in pattaya and getting a wee bit older any guys give me advice on where to start the ball rolling about living there full time re.solicitors, financial,legal ,banking advice,basically where do I start and is there a good honest and helpfull place that will help me ..Thanks
There is one view that deciding to live in Pattaya of all places is a form of mental illness. However a lot of people swear by the Pattaya Expats Club for the sort of information you seek
Agree about info from Pattaya Expats Club.
Best advice I can give is to be sure you come here on a Type O, Non-Immigrant visa especially if coming to Pattaya. If you come on a 30 day-on-arrival or 60 day Tourist visa you cannot convert to a Type O visa at Immigration in Jomtien.
You will have to go to Bangkok Immigration. After applying there you must return in two weeks to pickup the Type O visa. Then after two months you can convert the Type O to a Retirement visa.
So avoid all that hassle and get the Type O before arriving in Thailand.
really? how? where? you certainly can't do that in Bangkok - a NON-OA Retirement visa can only be issued in your home countryOriginally Posted by francois
however if you are in Thailand with a permission to stay from a NON-O visa and you satisfy the criteria you can apply to extend that permission to stay for 12 months for reasons of retirement by submitting form TM7 - APPLICATION FOR EXTENSION OF TEMPORARY STAY IN THE KINGDOM and providing the necessary evidence of compliance
the requirements for a NON-OA at a Thai consulate or embassy and NON-O at a Thai consulate or embassy (Foreign Ministry regulations) are different from the requirements for a NON-O at an Immigration Division Office in Thailand (Interior Ministry regulations) and different offices in different countries, and sometimes even within a country, or different provinces in Thailand may have their own interpretation of the requirements
there are some specific advantages (and disadvantages) to a NON-OA visa and some advance planing required for smooth processing of a NON-O visa and retirement extension so daf4 do your research and pick the best option for your circumstances
unfortunately the various forum are full of confusing, misleading or just incorrect information because people do not think correct terminology is important! I always get berated by long term expats as being pedantic by distinguishing between "retirement extension" and "retirement visa" because they claim everybody knows what they mean when they say "retirement visa" - lets see how much daf4 understands francois' use of "retirement visa"
bkkguy
I can’t even be bothered to be apathetic these days!
My recommendation is the Pattaya City Expat Club for getting helpful information (http://www.pattayacityexpatsclub.com/) and to sign up for the newsletter. The previously mentioned club(Pattaya Expat Club) is a spinoff of Nielsen Colov, owner of Pattaya People newspaper. I mention the PCEC link because the OP asked for good, honest, helpful information and I am a member of that club which meets every Sunday at the Amari's Tavern by the Sea
thanks guys it just seems so difficult just now but sure things will come to fruition,all help and comments are really appreciated thanks to all
You sure do like to quibble bkkguy! I never mentioned a OA visa, just an O visa which you can get while in Thailand at Immigration Office in Bangkok. I did that a week ago and was told to pick it up two weeks after I paid the 2000 Baht fee. I was also told by the Immigration officer that I could get a retirement visa (her words) after two more months. All these requirements are carefully listed in Pattaya Expats Club website.really? how? where? you certainly can't do that in Bangkok - a NON-OA Retirement visa can only be issued in your home country
- lets see how much daf4 understands francois' use of "retirement visa"
bkkguy
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Point of my post was not to come on a 30 day permission to stay or a 60 day tourist visa but come on a Non-Immigrant visa either O or OA. Less of a hassle especially if living in Pattaya.
Not to quibble but there are two expat clubs in Pattaya with almost the same name. As mentioned, the Pattaya Expat Club which is associated with Niels Colov empire and is more commercial, and then my club, the Pattaya City Expat Club (http://www.pattayacityexpatsclub.com/), which has an excellent newsletter and various interests groups. Our webmaster is great on keeping our visa section current and if anyone has any issues, please inform the club via our email link. Thanks!
All the responses mention living here on the basis of retirement - so the assumption is that you are at least 50 years of age as that is one of the requirements to get a long term stay based on retirement. The other is meeting the financial requirements - either 800,000 Baht on deposit in a Thai bank for 2 months before applying OR a letter from your Embassy certifying or attesting to a monthly income of 65,000 Baht per month OR a combination of the two where annualized monthly income added to money on deposit in a Thai bank are equal to or greater than 800,000 Baht. In the combo method, the rules do not require the money in the bank portion be there for any length of time; BUT some Immigration office will impose that restriction -- Chonburi (Pattaya) and Bangkok Immigration do not impose a time limit when using the combo method.
If you meet those requirements, it is possible to enter Thailand on the 30 day exempt or Tourist Visa and obtain an Non-Immigrant "O" Visa from Bangkok Immigration (Bangkok requires you have at least 15 days remaining on your permission to stay when you apply and then come back in 14 days to have the Non-Immigrant Visa put in your passport - they will also give you a permission to stay for 90 days). You will then need to apply for a one year extension of stay - Bangkok tells you to come back in 60 days to get it, Chonburi (Pattaya) will most likely process it at anytime during the 90 day period - the one year addition will be tacked on to the initial 90 days received. If you can get a Non-Immigrant "O" Visa from a Thai Embassy/consulate you would receive a permission to stay of 90 days on entry into Thailand -- then all you need do is apply for the one year extension of stay based on retirement at Thai Immigration before your 90 days are up (some Immigration Offices require you have at least 21 days remaining on the stay).
As mentioned you can also apply for a Non-immigrant "O-A" Visa in your home country. You will need to check with the Thai Embassy/Consulate on their particular requirements for documentation which will include a police report and a medical certificate (neither of which are required if applying for extension in Thailand). They may also require that documents be notarized, e.g., bank letter attesting to funds on deposit or letter from your income source if using monthly income to qualify. When entering Thailand on an O-A Visa, you receive a one year permission to stay. Most O-A Visas are coded "M" meaning multiple entry - thus if you leave and return to Thailand before the "Enter by" date shown on the O-A Visa, you will get a one year permission to stay each time.
As mentioned by Up2U, a good source of information is the Pattaya City Expat Club's (PCEC) website - but to save you time, go to this URL for the page on Thai Immigration requirements: http://www.pattayacityexpatsclub.com/expats/visa.html. This page also explains the correct terminology noting the distinction between a Visa and a Permission to Stay stamp - although extensions of stay for purpose of retirement are often referred to as "retirement visas" even by Thai Immigration, it is not the correct term - most of the time, it probably doesn't matter - BUT, sometimes it does and using the wrong term can get you the wrong advice - the PCEC has someone that keeps up with Thai Immigration matters - this person keeps their website info up to date and also offers assistance when asked. I suggest you read the PCEC information and if you have any questions, email info@pcecclub.org - they will pass your request on to this person for response.
Also, in regard to living in Thailand, the PCEC website has a complete section on this subject including information about banking, health care, vehicles including getting a Thai driving license, and much more. You can go to this page for an introduction and then on to page 2 for links to the subjects covered: http://www.pattayacityexpatsclub.com/expats/living.html or go to this url for the page with the links to subject matter: http://www.pattayacityexpatsclub.com...s/living2.html.
What a helpful post 2lz2p. Very clear in it's desription of the options, and providing for follow ups as well.
Is there a special place on the forum for making such posts easily accessible for months to come?
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