Has Jomtien Complex Peaked?

[arsenal]

Reading on Gaybutton that BC Bar and Double Shot have both closed. This added to Dorothy's being up for sale and my own first hand experience suggests that JC has indeed peaked and is now on the path trod by Sunee a few years ago. With rents at about 40'000 baht a month plus add ons this is no great surprise. If DS has gone and it's one of the most popular bars then there's little hope for most of the others.

I do find it fucking tragic that landlords the world over allow greed to lead to their properties becoming wastelands.

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[Oliver2]

Too many bars offering the same product as far as we could see in March. I counted twenty of them two years ago. And predictably, most were empty. The more vibrant area is just beyond the gay soi where new bars have sprung up since the post-Covid reopening. Are they gay bars? are there guys for offing ? I've no idea.

Our hotel, The Agate was an identifiably gay-friendly place when we started staying there five years ago. It is still friendly but we are outnumbered by straight couples. Occasionally, heaven help us, accompanied by sprogs, who aren't welcome in the swimming-pools when I'm around.

Plenty of massage joints are still open. I'd guess about nine in the immediate area.

From what I can see on Youtube , the JC is still busy at seasonal highs such as New Year, Songkran and Hallowe'en (?). We're back in a month and I anticipate few of us being around.

One further indication of the declining numbers of gay tourists-at least UK ones- can be observed at the check-in queues at lHR. I'm often the only single guy.

[Moses]

=== With rents at about 40'000 baht a month plus add ons this is no great surprise. ===
40K THB is just slightly above USD 1000... I don't see it like too high price for shop in the most attracting for gays site.

[Dodger]

[QUOTE=Oliver2;296700]

Too many bars offering the same product as far as we could see in March. I counted twenty of them two years ago. /QUOTE]

Absolutely!

The closure of a percentage of the bars in JC was inevitable IMO. As you stated, just too many bars with the same offerings for the average flow of customers.

There's probably somewhere around 30 bars now - and I can see around 15 surviving the long-term and making a decent profit.

[aussie]

With rents at about 40'000 baht a month plus add ons this is no great surprise.

A bar owner informed me last night that rents for the larger bars are around 80,000 baht each month plus add ons. Double Shot will be re-opening soon with the new owners rejecting their initial thinking of buying BC Bar. Double Shot is in much better condition with little work to be done although the Complex did remove all the refrigerators and fittings last week. Divarium bar was closed and locked up two days ago.

The smaller bars like Sunee Intimate and Meeting Place are doing well with much lower rents and promotions at Sunee Bar with their happy hour which is very popular and well attended. Maybe the larger bars need to be more pro-active with promotions and entertainment to encourage more customers.

[arsenal]

"A bar owner informed me last night that rents for the larger bars are around 80,000 baht each month plus add ons."

Right Lads. Back to Sunee everyone.

On a more serious note. Good news about Double Shot. M Barseems to be a good business model to follow. Small with loads of ever changing boys.

[gerefan2]

As I understand it two or three bars have closed, One is being taken over (Doubleshot) and one is for sale.

So the net loss is only about 2 bars closing …and they may well be taken over in due course.

Now if the same happened in Chinatown (sorry Boyztown) it would make a HUGE difference but in Jomtien with its 30+ bars is only a minor blip.

[Moses]

===are around 80,000 baht each month===
I think it depends on how many units at front it takes... 1-unit bar should be like 40K...

===M Bar seems to be a good business model to follow. Small with loads of ever changing boys.====
For me advantage of M-bar is in it location - next soi, not too much noise, not so loud music and no heavy cigarette smoke

===Maybe the larger bars need to be more pro-active with promotions and entertainment to encourage more customers.===
I think these are important, but more important is unique offer... something what other bars don't have...

[Jellybean]

Maybe the larger bars need to be more pro-active with promotions and entertainment to encourage more customers.

I think these are important, but more important is unique offer... something what other bars don't have...

Something the other bars don't have? Well, I’ve got just the idea. Bring back Boy Bingo! That’ll draw the crowds in!

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[gerefan2]

Or open a Gogo bar in the Main Soi near the girls Gogo bar, but opposite Supertown.

The powers to be couldn’t object to one there!