Me two I remember first time in Pattaya, stumbled across Sunee Plaza and OMG thought I had died and gone to Heaven.
Very good GOGO bars well most of them and some gorgeous boys.
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Me two I remember first time in Pattaya, stumbled across Sunee Plaza and OMG thought I had died and gone to Heaven.
Very good GOGO bars well most of them and some gorgeous boys.
Roll on April.Similar Threads:
On my first visit I was clueless about the bars and all. Did the usual tourist things for about 10 days, then flew to Siem Reap to see Angkor Wat. On the return flight from Cambodia I was looking through the inflight magazine and saw a paragraph about Tawan Bar. I had only a couple of days left, but set out resolutely to find the Tawan. I ended up walking nearly the full length of Silom and then across to Surawongse in major heat & humidity, grasping my tourist map. Slowly approached Tawan still having no idea what it was all about. Asked the guys out in front if there was a show, not knowing what other term to use. "Show" of course meant something else to them and they said it wasn't until 23:00, several hours later.
So I turned around and there was the Tomahawk Gogo Bar across the soi. The guys in front of the Tomahawk took me in hand and simply escorted me inside without conversation and a whole new wonderful world opened up to me. It still took more time, and whole lot more drinks than was probably wise, to figure out the procedure for calling a boy over and offing him. There was no question in my mind who I wanted, but before I could summon the courage to ask for him, someone else called him over and I was devastated.
For some reason he was rejected and sent back on stage and I wasted no further time calling him over. We drank some more and finally the mamasan must have decided I needed some prompting. He sat down and calmly explained "offing" and my cup, amongst other things, truly runneth over.
I was staying at the Holiday Inn on Silom and as blitzed as I was, I was sure everyone in the lobby came to a screeching halt to stare at us when we came in (totally in my imagination I can assure you). We definitely did not go unnoticed by a certain hotel employee who propelled me to the reception desk to pay a joiners fee, although initially I thought it had something to do with a monumental breach of etiquette on my part.
Thereafter all went without a hitch. Since I had told the mamasan I wanted him to stay the night, the next morning I dutifully sent him on his way, not knowing he could or would remain with me longer than that if I had asked.That morning, before leaving Thailand, I again walked the length of Silom to find the Tomahawk in order to get the street address and telephone number on the signage in the front of the bar. I'm not sure if I remembered his name or at least not properly, but the number he wore at the bar was forever emblazoned in my mind.
It was a few months before I could come back, and the "boy" and the experience filled my thoughts almost every waking minute during that time. As my return neared, I wrote a letter (in English, duh, but apparently the mamasan or someone was able to read it) announcing that I wanted to off the guy for ... I forget how long, but it must have been one or two months. Telephoned the bar a week before I came back to confirm. Of course that first night had been a major event in my life, but it was pretty much business as usual for the boy, so he was more than a little surprised (and quite happy) when told that I had wanted to off him big time based on that single encounter that he had probably long forgot about. He did recognize me when I met up with him again and still looked quite pleased, which was comforting.
For the next couple of years I spent all my holiday time in Thailand and all of it with him. He stopped working in the bar and for awhile had some bit parts in a show ... can't remember the place. I think it was off Sukhumvit. Sort of like an Alcazar or Tiffany type show. Eventually he did some further schooling because he wanted to do something in the travel business. We parted company finally when he was ready to move on, but still saw each other from time to time.
Considering the 101 wrong things I did in terms of trying to establish a long term relationship with him, he was the perfect teacher. He never tried to mislead me with all the supposed barboy tricks & lies. I did help him a little when he was in school, but he refused my offers of more help. He always made it clear we would remain good friends, but that he eventually planned to return north to his home, work in some aspect of the tourist business and that for him, being a long term "kept boy" was not what he wanted.
The whole initial experience seems laughable now and I'm amazed at how overwhelmed and naive I was, but it definitely was a life-altering experience. From that moment forward I knew I wanted to make Thailand home for all my holidays and eventually a permanent retirement home. Never a moment's doubt from that time. Never a regret. Have since established a fairly stable relationship with someone along with a little cyclical butterflyism. Cannot fathom what life would be like now if I hadn't seen that little item in the magazine while flying back from Cambodia. Although I'm suitably jaded about it all now, I'm still frequently amazed at how fortunate I was in stumbling into my current, very pleasant situation.
That was a nice post, X - I appreciate the time you took to think it through and put it on cyber-paper.
Please post more like it when you can... it's useful reference for the newbies and stirs memories (and perhaps something a little further south) for the rest of us who sometimes forget the initial magic of our earliest trips.
my first trip....hmmm...
I was impressed by the quality and service level of JW Marriott hotel in Bangkok. For the price I paid, I did not expect all this,...the food, the presentation, the cultural characters...heaven. :compress:
That was a great post, X. A very enjoyable and believable read.
I think you were very lucky with the boy that you chose.
Mentioning Tomahawk Bar brings back memories, as there were always some cute twinky types there, if that was your thing. And some hot shows, for a relative newbie.
It must be years now since Tomahawk closed. Who could guess when that was?
..........and that's the way it is.
My first visit was 18 years ago. I met up with a friend who was also on his first visit but only had one night. I'd read about the "Golden Cock" Bar in Bangkok which in those days was a nice upmarket bar with friendly boys and no sleeze.
Our first experience of Go Go and my first "Off" with a boy called "A". I later "Offed" a boy called "Bee" and my friend commented that "you're working your way through the alphabet".
I then headed off up country and my friend, who worked for an airline and was on a freeby, headed home.
Barbary Boys was the place to go for a sex show and the original Twilight Bar featured naked Go Go. Quite an eye opener in those days.
Didn't get to Pattaya until some years later but have visited Thailand every year since.
My first couple of trips were with a tour group out of California. Great introduction to the sights and sounds of thailand and also the gogo scene. It was a nice combination of temples sights and nightlife. I still am in contact with most of the other travelers (those that are still alive) that I met on those trips. Also have kept many thai boy friendships from those trips.
My first visit wasn't all that long ago...3 years. I think what I remember most is just how nice everyone was to me. I think people in that part of the world are really good at hospitality. I had a couple of unfortunate incidents that weren't a lot of fun including a night in the hospital with food poisoning, and the night of the September 2006 coup.
If you have no experience with a strip club/gogo bar you might want to find a guide to show you the ropes. I had spent a good bit of time in Toronto over the years at the male stripper bar there so I was pretty well used to how things are in those sorts of places. Even that didn't quite prepare me for the shock of a couple of bars in Pattaya. And the whole atmosphere of Pattaya was rather depressing. I have warmed to it since that first visit, but I can only take it for a few days at a time.
Make sure you take time to see the cultural/historic sites. I loved the Grand Palace and Wat Po and the other big sites in Bangkok. Ayutthaya was also a highlight of that first trip.
it took me 1 hour to ventilate my first trip to Thailand and than the connection went down.
won't type it again. sorry.
I think now it wouldn't have been my bar of choice and probably that boy wouldn't have caught my far more discerning eye, but I was blinded to all that by my infatuation for the whole experience. I definitely feel a sentimental attachment to both Tomahawk and my first boy. Can't recall when it closed, but I was sorry to see it was gone. My friend told me it was owned by a wealthy Thai woman. They used to close down for a day or two from time-to-time and she hosted a day trip to Pattay for everyone who worked there.Originally Posted by neddy3
Adam's Apple in Chiang Mai, Boys' Studio in Pattaya were my favorite because the guys seemed to be more relaxed, to be having fun and were so casual about getting naked ... probably the getting naked part was the greatest attraction. Crazy Pub in Pattaya and one in Bangkok ... something like Twilight or Starlight I think ... were also great for the occasional excursion into absolute crudity.
Thai boys, especially the naked variety, still capture my undivided attention, but the whole gogo bar thing isn't that appealing to me anymore. The only bar I've visited recently that I enjoyed was Krazy Dragon just because the guys seemed to be relaxed and enjoying themselves.
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