Available boys in Pattaya..

[Manforallseasons]

[South America?]

Years ago I spent a lot of vacations in Puerto Rico and in the Dominican Republic as well as a couple of times in Mexico City however, none have escaped Covid and much like elsewhere my favorite place for fun was Puerto Rico which like Thailand had a rapidly evaporating scene.

I totally disagree with Dodger’s sentiments, as Thailand as a gay destination slowly began to shrink way before Covid.
I originally thought Covid would be gone and Thailand would return to some degree of normality however, I thought this would occur by this time next year but judging what I see here in Thailand and the new emergence of the virus worldwide I now believe it will take a few years during which time the toll on the gay venues will be devastating begging the question what will be left here to return to?

[goji]

I totally disagree with Dodger’s sentiments, as Thailand as a gay destination slowly began to shrink way before Covid.

I currently agree with Dodger's assessment that there will not be a destination with better availability of boys than Thailand.

To say Thailand will be unsuitable to visit as a gay destination and disagree with Dodger, you really need to propose credible alternatives.
Most of us are not all going to stay at home for the next 30 years moaning that Thailand is not as good as the old days.
We're going to pick the best option and go there.

So where do you suggest we go instead ? And when will you go there ?
Saying Thailand is unsuitable for us to visit, whilst living there 365 days a year is a tad inconsistent. Look at what people do, as well as what they say.

The last time you raised this topic, places in Latin America were proposed. When I browse the apps in such places, there might be about one cute twinky lad for every 3 pages on Grindr. Now that one lad is probably not renting his ass out. If he is, he may well be some feckless type who won't actually do much to earn his money. So there are so few cute twinks it's probably hard or impossible to find a good one.
Not to mention the chances of getting mugged at night.

I would suggest The Philippines is one of the best alternatives to Thailand for picking up lads. The lads are quite hot, but there isn't really much of a bar scene. Also, I don't think walking around late at night is quite as safe as Thailand.

So I would still choose Thailand ahead of The Philippines.

[Manforallseasons]

gogo, I have been to the Philippines 2X and I thought many of the guys were very hot and it was a big plus that most spoke some English….I wasn’t thrilled with Manila but loved Baguio and that would certainly be a contender however, the Philippines is much worse off at the moment because of Covid than even here.

[latintopxxx]

too clingy...far too clingy....filipinos that is...by the second "date" they are humming "put a ring on it"...a la beyonce...

[Dodger]

I just returned home (Bang Saray) from my routine buzz around the bay to Pattaya to meet up with friends for coffee. Evan with Pattaya being in a Total Lockdown situation, with the Beach being closed as well, I crossed paths with several boys who I could have spent time with if I wanted, e.g.:

Beach Boy - who used to work freelance in Sunee.
Bar Boy - Hangs around Jomtien Complex in the wee early morning hours.
Market Boy - Ex Nice Boys dancer who freelances around the Thrapraya Morning Market area.
Massage Boy - Relax Massage (behind Tukcom) boy looking for customer, even with parlor being closed.
Soi Bon Khai Boy - Wandering boy walked up to my motorbike while parked in front of 7/11 and asked me "where you go"?

Five boy sightings in less than 2 hours, and I wasn't even looking for them. Evan in a Total Lockdown, with Pattaya resembling the remnants of a post-apocalyptic city on the edge of ruin, and still there are available boys.

I don't know what that tells you about the "availability of boys" here in the Land of Smiles - but it tells me that if they're available now in limited supply, then they'll be more of them around in the future. No doubt about it!

[aussie]

I just returned home (Bang Saray) from my routine buzz around the bay to Pattaya to meet up with friends for coffee. Evan with Pattaya being in a Total Lockdown situation, with the Beach being closed as well, I crossed paths with several boys who I could have spent time with if I wanted, e.g.:

With the infection rate rising daily spending any time with the "available" boys is currently risky business. The Jomtien Complex before and after the lockdown has had quite a few occupants spending time away for fourteen days in hospital care or in quarantine care facilities. The hospitals are mostly full so some have been told to isolate in their room. I am not sure how they can isolate if they are living in a bar, massage shop or in a room with multiple occupants.

The out of work bar and massage guys hang out at the beach or in groups and sometimes have small parties at night with farangs dropping by for a chat and more if they can get it. Perfect conditions for the Delta variant to easily spread.

The system at the Banglumung Covid testing station as reported by Complex guys who attended last week. If the doctor does not call you back within two or three days after having the test then you are negative. If the doctor calls then you must isolate at home and go back for another test. My friend was negative but he suggested it would cause less stress to receive a message on the Line ASAP after the test saying that he was negative or otherwise instead of waiting for a phone call. The authorities are probably worried that anyone with a positive result will hide somewhere instead of spending two weeks in a facility.

[gerefan2]

. The authorities are probably worried that anyone with a positive result will hide somewhere instead of spending two weeks in a facility.

If that’s still the case isn’t it stupid? Why does everyone have to go to a facility? Does any other country make that mandatory?

According to this website https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ no less than 14,000,000 people are currently infected. Just imagine what would happen if they all had to go to a facility or hospital.

These places should be reserved for the seriously ill.

[goji]

With the infection rate rising daily spending any time with the "available" boys is currently risky business. The Jomtien Complex before and after the lockdown has had quite a few occupants spending time away for fourteen days in hospital care or in quarantine care facilities. The hospitals are mostly full so some have been told to isolate in their room. I am not sure how they can isolate if they are living in a bar, massage shop or in a room with multiple occupants.

The out of work bar and massage guys hang out at the beach or in groups and sometimes have small parties at night with farangs dropping by for a chat and more if they can get it. Perfect conditions for the Delta variant to easily spread.

That ought to be a clear enough warning for any farang.

Whilst the boys are young and fit, their risk of dying from covid is probably minimal.
On the other hand, for any elderly farang who are not yet vaccinated, once there are reported cases of covid in Jomtien complex, socializing with the lads would be very risky.

I also think the Thai policy of sending all covid infection cases to a hospital is crazy.
Not only does it tie up such facilities, but if the prospective inmate has the option of being sent to some crappy field hospital or pay for a better hospital (if space exists), I can imagine it will discourage people from getting a test until they are genuinely ill.

I have been to the Philippines 2X and I thought many of the guys were very hot and it was a big plus that most spoke some English….I wasn’t thrilled with Manila but loved Baguio and that would certainly be a contender however, the Philippines is much worse off at the moment because of Covid than even here.

OK, so still nowhere better than Thailand ?

[Dodger]

With the infection rate rising daily spending any time with the "available" boys is currently risky business.

My previous comments were intended to describe the "availability of boys" in town right now - now the "risk factors" that you correctly highlighted. I couldn't agree more about the risk involved with hooking up with boys at this juncture.

Personally, I don't have any physical interations with anyone other than my partner. Not because of covid, but because that's the type of relationship we're in. If I was unattached during this pandemic, I imagine I'd be watching a lot of porno and remain content just talking with the boys (as I do now) standing 3 meters away with a face mask.

I was getting a lot of ribbing from expat friends over here when I first retired for settling down in a relationship - versus coninuing to have fun as a "butterfly" as every one of my friends over here still does. Well, all I can say, is not only do I not have to wear a face mask or worry about social distancing when we're being intement with each other - we don't have to wear condoms either.

As far as my "butterfly" friends: Their wings have been clipped and they're almost all lonely and depressed. Sad, but the truth.

The New Normal:

Maybe it's time to think about finding a boyfriend and enjoy life to the max - versus continuing to tiptoe through the poisoned poppy fields like Dorothy and Toto on their way to Oz...???

Just a thought!

[arsenal]

Who do you think you are kidding Mr Covid?
If you think old Pattaya's done.
We are the gays who will stop your little game.
We are the queers who will make you think again.
So who do you think you are kidding Mr Covid , if you think our Pattaya's done.

Oll' faggot Brown flies into town on Thai flight 661.
Then he goes out each evening with his loaded trouser gun.
So who do you think you are kidding Mr Covid, if you think our Pattaya's done.

Them Siam boys, they like it up em, they do like it up em.