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If a falang were injured or even murdered in revenge for humiliations suffered by a Thai whom he had taken into his apartment for some sort of S/M session, and the falang had been using a message board to advertise his proclivities, there may be legal implications. And the same may be true if a Thai national complained to the police about his or her treatment.
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TaoR: Exactly. So either it's true in which case that's lovely stuff on a public forum or it isn't true in which case why is he writing it. A genuine heads I win tails you lose case Latin.
But surely it can't be true. As I said, how plausible is it that a guy would enrol in a school to learn English in Holland?? Wouldn't be be studying Dutch??
See, Latin? You need to think things through before you post.
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If a falang were injured or even murdered in revenge for humiliations suffered by a Thai whom he had taken into his apartment for some sort of S/M session,.....
Thank you, Oliver. That's the point I've been trying to make. Someone could get hurt. So the free speech / put him on Ignore argument is invalid in this case.
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a447: So if it can't be true can anyone tell me why his stuff is here because I can think of no reason whatsoever.
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When Neal ran this board he told me in a pm that he didn't believe Latin's bullshit but he thought he was good for the board - he added interest and something different.
But even he found one of Latin's frothing-at-the-mouth frenzied posts about his S&M fantasies too much for the board and so banned him for a month.
As for his totally unbelievable stories, such as the live-in boarder (who is probably fluent in Dutch by now) they don't bother me. They shouldn't be banned -they add an unintended comedy element to the forum. And to be honest, I just love dissecting them and pointing out all the totally implausible scenarios. Just leave out the vile description of humiliation.
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My two cents, posters openly advocating banning a member just because they find his posts offensive, or because they don't agree with them should be utterly ashamed.
Whatever happened to freedom of speech. Maybe some of these posters have been in Thailand too long, and now suddenly believe the human rights abuses and curtailment of freedom of speech by the current regime are normal and acceptable ?
As long as Latin is within the forum rules, he can post his content freely and should be able to without other members asking for a ban, when one is quite clearly not warrented.
I for one quite often get a chuckle out of his posts, and let's be honest here, this site is about the Thai male sex for hire scene. Hardly surprising that posts like those of Latin appear here. I find them not all that shocking or beyond imagination.
As to respect, sorry but we are not talking about a waiter in a restaurant, or a hotel receptionist, we are talking about people who prostitute themselves for some money because they either like it, or more likely because there is a financially necessity.
In that light, any act of sex puts the sex worker at a disadvantage, not only the "deviant" behaviour Latin is talking about, holier than thou and all of that.
I am not saying those guys don't deserve respect, but let's call a spade a spade here.
Instead of being nasty and whinging about this particular poster, put him on ignore or simply scroll by his posts. Problem solved without showing your nasty side, a win-win.
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The world wide web has spawned so much and sadly it has opened a Pandora's Box...
People can say and post anything; with no filters and no way to verify what they say. I can get on Facebook at any time and read some of the things my friends and family have posted and I cannot help but wonder, "WTF?!"
Facts, truth, and logic have just been kicked to the curb...
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"Truthiness" or the idea that as long as something feels right and or fits your narrative its good to go. Taste? Threw that out the window years ago. Truth? Kicked to the curb. Integrity? Who cares.
Latin can and will post what ever he wants, where ever he wants, when ever he wants and that is now the world that we live in. All we can do is to voice our disgust and move on...
Justaguy, I have to disagree with you in regards to your attempt to claim that we are talking about sex workers and somehow their line of work does not deserve that they be treated with decency and respect.
They are human beings that provide a service. As such they are no different than a waiter or a hotel receptionist who also provide a service.
If one feels that because someone in Thailand provides a service that one is obviously willing to partake of then if one feels a desire to punish them, or debase them, or throw their earned tip across the floor in public then obviously one has issues with ones sexuality and or intimacy with another human being.
We are well beyond the point where anything can be done to stop Latin from posting whatever it is he wants to post. But can protest and denounce whatever it is he does post that we find offensive; and we should, regardless of the "truth" and or "truthiness" of what he says.
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The consensus appears to be moving from banning Latin to just banning his disgusting posts.
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hardly surprising that posts like those of Latin appear here
What other posts are you referring to? Latin is the only member making such posts.
How can a sex worker be "put at a disadvantage" if he "likes it"?
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I'm not saying those guys don't deserve respect
Yes, you are.You even apologised for saying it.
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Whatever happened to freedom of speech.
Another of the freedom of speech without the usual responsibilities brigade. Please read posts 112, 113 and 116.
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Justaguy: I think you've answered your own questions. We are all of us rampant sexually, travelling all over Asia (the world) hiring money boys as though the world is about to end. Not one of us is prudish in any way whatsoever and we all have our own likes when it comes to the pleasures of the flesh. And we find Latin offensive. You really have to push the boat out to repulse your average gay man.
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The consensus appears to be moving from banning Latin to just banning his disgusting posts.
What other posts are you referring to? Latin is the only member making such posts.
How can a sex worker be "put at a disadvantage" if he "likes it"?
Yes, you are.You even apologised for saying it.
Most of those sex workers do not like to having to go with guys twice or three times their age. They enter this business because they don't see another way out. I personally know a few of these guys, and pretty much all of those have expressed regret entering that business.
If they are lucky, they don't encounter people like Latin, but that is a pretty slim chance. Because guys like Latin do frequent this particular business. Even though he might be the only one on here expressings his views in the way he does, he is far from the only one actually executing the acts he is talking about.
Yes even sex workers do reserve respect, but their choice to sell their body to anyone willing to off them, does put the respect part under pressure. Pressure that is mounting anyway, from the bar because they want as many off as possible, up to pressure to reach a certain amount so bills can be paid, mouths can be feed.
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fountainhall
Another of the freedom of speech without the usual responsibilities brigade. Please read posts 112, 113 and 116.
Actually I did not merely play the freedom of speech card, I did mention the forum rules. It seems at least two moderators on here have indicated he does abide by them, so that would put calls for his banning to bed I would think.
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No Justaguy. On this board moderator decisions do not put things to bed unless the actual thread is removed and even then it's likely to mushroom up somewhere else. In this instance that would be likely to be the black money boy thread where Latin has been strutting his 'look at me, look at me, I got money, I can buy you' stuff. Stuff that apparently you enjoy reading. Playing the freedom of speech card, unless you really know the subject and all the implications is a minefield best avoided. Think of it like snake handling, it looks easy but...............
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arsenal
No Justaguy. On this board moderator decisions do not put things to bed unless the actual thread is removed and even then it's likely to mushroom up somewhere else. In this instance that would be likely to be the black money boy thread where Latin has been strutting his 'look at me, look at me, I got money, I can buy you' stuff. Stuff that apparently you enjoy reading. Playing the freedom of speech card, unless you really know the subject and all the implications is a minefield best avoided. Think of it like snake handling, it looks easy but...............
I actually did read those posts, didn't find them all that shocking. It is what it is, these people sell their body, and he is buying. Not my cup of tea, I prefer not to sell or buy.
But the quote you are referring to IS accurate. No need to soften it up, or pretend it is something else.
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Most of those sex workers do not like to having to go with guys twice or three times their age. They enter this business because they don't see another way out. I personally know a few of these guys, and pretty much all of those have expressed regret entering that business.
I wasn't talking about those who don't like going with old customers; I was referring to those guys who you said "liked it."
And I personally know of more than just a few guys who, in fact, have no regrets about working in the business. They see it as easy money which can be earned in a very short time.
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...he is far from the only one actually executing the acts he is talking about
Justaguy, I don't know how much experience you have had with Thai bar boys. I get the feeling it is limited, otherwise you would be aware that the boys talk to each other incessantly about their customers. He is totally unknown to the boys in the bars he frequents, so it is all bullshit. I've been close for a number of years to guys who work at Eros - Latin's supposedly favourite gogo bar - and they all say they've never come across anyone who has tried those disgusting antics.
I've no doubt there are those with S&M fetishes, but any customer who tried Latin's tactics would be blackbanned immediately. No more sex for him.
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Yes even sex workers do deserve respect, but....
Why the word "even"? And why the qualification "but"? It's obvious you don't respect them either and so have no problem with Latin also disrespecting them. So your objection seems to have little to do with "free speech" and all to do with your similar attitude towards the guys.
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Justaguy: Here we are. You, me and others disagreeing with each other. You putting forward your views and me rebutting and vice versa. It's an adult conversation using adult language. Now, pick any member you choose or more than one, go and read a few of his posts and then read a few of Latins'. See any difference?
I would also say I have no problem with anyone doing any of the stuff in post 41 provided it was discussed beforehand and a price agreed. As you say, they are sex workers and sex takes many different forms. However we don't need to write about it here and certainly not in that de-humanising way.
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I've read what Justaguy has to say and I was just about to comment on the "sex workers deserve respect, but..." - then I saw not only did a447 beat me to it, but hit the nail on the head.
The idea that a person deserves somewhat less respect because of the nature of the "job" they do is antiquated - and elitist because I suspect that Justaguy would not apply the "but" to professional liars like lawyers or professional tax evaders like accountants.
It says more about Justaguy than it does about any sex worker.
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In fact I'm taking the points Scottish and a447 made further. These boys have sex with often quite disgusting farangs (not me, I'm gorgeous) and Thai men and then send this very hard earned money home to their families. Respect them? YES I fucking respect them.
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I wasn't talking about those who don't like going with old customers; I was referring to those guys who you said "liked it."
And I personally know of more than just a few guys who, in fact, have no regrets about working in the business. They see it as easy money which can be earned in a very short time.
Justaguy, I don't know how much experience you have had with Thai bar boys. I get the feeling it is limited, otherwise you would be aware that the boys talk to each other incessantly about their customers. He is totally unknown to the boys in the bars he frequents, so it is all bullshit. I've been close for a number of years to guys who work at Eros - Latin's supposedly favourite gogo bar - and they all say they've never come across anyone who has tried those disgusting antics.
I've no doubt there are those with S&M fetishes, but any customer who tried Latin's tactics would be blackbanned immediately. No more sex for him.
Why the word "even"? And why the qualification "but"? It's obvious you don't respect them either and so have no problem with Latin also disrespecting them. So your objection seems to have little to do with "free speech" and all to do with your similar attitude towards the guys.
I have zero experience with Thai bar boys (as a customer that is). I don't hire or rent Thai bar boys or Thai money boys, period.
I find paying for sex something that I'm not prepared to do, and so far never had to.
As to people having no regrets, I'm sure quite a few won't, I also have no doubt many more have, pretty much common sense one would have thought...
If Latin actually speaks the truth is inconsequential to me, I'm sure not all of what he writes is actually true, but I don't see that as a ground to ban him, and I'm sure you don't either.
I never claimed they don't deserve respect, however people selling their body do not register as highly deserving of respect in my book, if that as Scottish Guy claims below, says more about me, than so be it. I believe selling your body to be something you should avoid.
@Arsenal, I know loads of Thai and Lao boys who send money home to their family, and they don't sell their body to do it. They make long and hard hours, working in excess of 12 hours a day, sometimes two jobs, just to get by. Selling your body is the "easy way out".
In my view, if you really respect those guys, you wouldn't be buying. Now if that is not food for thought, I don't know what is...
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Possums...I'm back...hope I wasnt missed too much...now wipe away those tears(of joy). This topic has thrown me little off balance...as i was taken aback at the amount of venomous sanctimonious vitriol thrown my way...but at the same time have been thankful for the few posters who have sorta supported if not me and my actions..at least my freedom to post what I get up to.
Now one mans trash is anothers treasure...so if some of u find my posts nauseating think of how i feel when I have to plough through another boooooring tale of a447s sad sack trips through boys town/sunnee plaza...full of missed opportunities and mystical vietnamnese boys I think that instead of waiting to be thrown off a balcony I'll just launch myself. So see mr a447....vanillesque tales of woe and missed fucks are so not me.
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racist...really...ME!!
I've availed myself of MB arse all over the planet from lilly white east europe...to trailer trash in the US (delicious...and to be recommended) to the former master /ruling race afrikaans boys(please...its a gay boys...meaning at least 18) in Gauteng in South africa.
Ok, so most of the cheap arse happens to be in shitty 3rd world/developing countries...which happen to not be lilly white...not my fault...I didnt create this planet.
In fact my whole humiliation kink was very well fed in Gauteng when I would negotiate with the poor white afrikaans boys who would hang around the parking lots of shopping centers.
So sorry...not racist...I really dont care what colour the MB comes in.
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House guest/English language student
a447...the amateur "gotcha" sleuth...I no longer live in Europe...moved 18 months ago...new job...slightly better pay...now live in one of the very few english speaking counties in the southern hemisphere.
House guest...he lives free...no rent..full use of a fully furnished apartment...even gets his shirts ironed if he puts them out. But basically he's mine for an hour a day...usually after hours...but sometimes I like to play games and exercise my power by stressing him by summonsing him at short notice at any hour of the day to a random location by a set time. I'll fuck him and leave. Job done. Gets to stay.
When does he get to leave..?? When I get bored...I didnt marry him...I dont love him. Its sex. If and when I tire I will let him know that he has like a week or two to move on. This usuallu happens after 6 months. ....sometimes sooner if I find a good replacement.
I live in a city with a thriving multiple private english language college industry...there are lotsa east asians looking for accomodation and j(part time) jobs...most not flush with cash...I'm there to take full advantage of the situation.
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MB treatment
Sure I accept that some (not all) of u find my treatment of MB offensive...fine.
But I also find it highly offensive and heart attack inducing reading how some of U engage lying devious MB who renege on their duties who instead of performing as agreed either steal from u or take long showers/watch TV/sleep...instead of the happy ending as agreed.
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...geez now Im tired...might just take another 4 day sabbatical...
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Sexual Deviant Latin: Welcome back. I didn't read any of your frothy come-while-you-write posts because I've read them before. I'm considering joining a straight Thailand message board and posting your stuff there but changing the he to she and the him to her. Just to see their reaction. Then I can point them in this direction so they can read the original.
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...sounds like a threat....should I be worried...cower under the sheets....
...and u do know that there are straight bars in Pattaya that u can walk in..sit down..order a beer...grab the nearest skull ( which just so happens to be attached to a real live female) and get a BJ while u enjoy your beer....the gay scene is positively tame compared to our straight friends...in fact some of the craziest parties have been with straight dutch friends...on holiday in Pattaya.
...and where do u think I got the line " you loose like old womans pussy'...from a straight dutch friend...he picks up street walkers on walking street...and after 20 or so strokes complains its far too loose and old and then gets them to agree to anal..total hoot...his fav position is her on a bar stool...arse stuck over the side..so he can fuck standing..drinking beer..smoking and watching sport on TV...
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I loved the "I'm no racist because I screw anyone, whatever their colour" line. And no sense of irony....delicious. I'm sure that the American slave-owners who visited their slaves nightly and fathered countless "mulatto" children would empathise. After all, they really loved those black bodies. And for a more up-to-date analysis of this view on sexuality and race, why not try Edward Said's "Orientalism"?
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Sexual Deviant Latin wrote:
"..sounds like a threat....should I be worried...cower under the sheets....
...and u do know that there are straight bars in Pattaya that u can walk in..sit down..order a beer...grab the nearest skull ( which just so happens to be attached to a real live female) and get a BJ while u enjoy your beer....the gay scene is positively tame compared to our straight friends...in fact some of the craziest parties have been with straight dutch friends...on holiday in Pattaya.
...and where do u think I got the line " you loose like old womans pussy'...from a straight dutch friend...he picks up street walkers on walking street...and after 20 or so strokes complains its far too loose and old and then gets them to agree to anal..total hoot...his fav position is her on a bar stool...arse stuck over the side..so he can fuck standing..drinking beer..smoking and watching sport on TV..."
The humour for me is to see just how far you go with your insatiable desire to shock. It's good to know that you enjoy the straight bars during your many trips to Thailand inbetween your trips to here and there and everywhere while having a fun time in Florida while living somewhere the boys will service you for an hour a day while earning loads of money while moving countries for a small salary rise while chucking 500 baht at Thai boys while fucking them for 3 hours while using the apps because they're cheaper while offering to buy us with your money pouch while while while while......................Over to you SDL. Fill in whatever creepy thing you want to write next. You have carte blanche from the mods so off you go.
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MB treatment
Sure I accept that some (not all) of u find my treatment of MB offensive...fine.
But I also find it highly offensive and heart attack inducing reading how some of U engage lying devious MB who renege on their duties who instead of performing as agreed either steal from u or take long showers/watch TV/sleep...instead of the happy ending as agreed.
Yawn! Yawn! Your following post was bang on the button. Take another 4 day sabbatical . . . and then another . . . and then another . . .
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Yawn! Yawn! Your following post was bang on the button. Take another 4 day sabbatical . . . and then another . . . and then another . . .
Why are you guys even advocating banning him ? If he takes a sabbatical after every single day posting, you only have to deal with him about 6 days a month :D
Oh and Arsenal, he's got yo right where he wants you, don't feed the troll mean anything ? Priceless.
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If he takes a sabbatical after every single day posting, you only have to deal with him about 6 days a month :D
You say "if". Will you guarantee that?
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Let Latintop stay if he tells the truth, ban him if he lies. I admit I think there is little value in his posts, and now it becomes repetitive, but no reason for a ban (unless he lies).
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Let's have a new forum rule. Any member continuously posting lies of a repetitive nature shall be banned from further posting. Simple!
Great idea, but how to find out if it's a lie or not?
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Latin has provided a young man with a place to stay and in return the young man must participate, against his will, in some very disturbed activities for one hour a day.
They have an agreement. I wonder if the boy knew what he signed up to, but he leave any time. It's like being a garbage collector, nobody grows up wanting to become a garbage collector, but someone has to do the job.
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Latintopxxx has already admitted that when he struck the "agreement" with the boy he neglected to mention the bit about sucking his arsehole, eating his semen, and being obliged to service Latin's friends at his whim while he watches and hurls insults
So with respect Christian, it's more a case of signing up to be a garbage collector and then finding out you're actually expected to shovel shite
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scotty....please try to see both sides of the situation. I know that u(and some of your side kicks..yes u arsenal) r determined to paint me as some sort of sm deviant that prevents my partners in play from leaving. Note that its now more than a month since he moved in, 3 weeks since I convinced him to service my buddy...and he's still here.
...and FYI sucking arse (rose budding) is not really out there, it forms part of mainstream gay sex...not at all unusual. ...maybe u find it disgusting but for many gays its just another thing we do.
Sure I knew that when we were discussing our arrangement that he thought that it would be me using him for an hour at home....so I really enjoyed his irritation/discomfort at being summonsed to a public toilet during classes to service me....next time he should be more specific....after all my words were " for one hour/day his body was mine to use"
...again..he's still nicely ensconced in my spare bedroom...
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...and Oliver...maybe now we can understand why trump win...when loonie lying lefties like u somehow draw a conclusion that I'm racist....like politically correct gone crazy...as stated I really dont care what colour the MB comes in...have done ash blond Poles to pitch black north east brazilians....all good.
Sure I have preferences when I'm in Thailand...I find the browner/darker skinned guys more attractive...seem to have smoother silkier skin,,,less blemished....does that make me anti-white racist??
Of all the insults and invective hurled at me being accused of being racist is the one that offends the most...simply ugly and untrue...
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when loonie lying lefties like u somehow draw a conclusion that I'm racist....like politically correct gone crazy...as stated I really dont care what colour the MB comes in...have done ash blond Poles to pitch black north east brazilians....all good.
No doubt that's what the 17th/18th/19th century colonists also said. The colour of the peoples' skin didn't matter. How to exploit them did!
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Sexual Deviant Latin is indeed now on my ignore list. All his crap and nonsense magically disappear. That is where he will stay for as long as I am a member of this board. Try it guys. With one click of the magicians wand and a turd is flushed away.
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And unlike SDL I do actually visit Thailand regularly and have a lovely time.
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And unlike SDL I have lived here for more than 15 years and visited several times a year for the previous 20+ years. I, too, have a great time. Before having a Thai bf, I, too, had sometimes been with MBs. I absolutely do not believe there is a procession of MBs here just waiting for SDL to abuse them in the ways he has routinely, repulsively described. I also believe all but a very few actively dislike taking part in the practices he says he indulges in. And yes, I have recently been asking around. The idea was met with universal revulsion.
I will not block SDL. I will continue to expose his racist, disgusting behaviour.
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Hi Fountainhall. Would you please show the proper respect and use the full title of Sexual Deviant Latin. Many thanks. Protocol must be maintained don't ya know.
Yes. I know my last post didn't so no need to tell me.
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Point noted. Actually I don't think Sexual Deviant Latin goes far enough. Control Freak Sexual Exploiter Latin is I suggest more accurate. In psychological terms, control freak is an apt description as it can describe one using power over others both to escape an inner emptiness and disguise an antisocial personality disorder.