Okay, I confess, I didn’t have just my foot massaged.
I found a boy who seems quite knowledgeable about male anatomy. Not much English, though. I can’t tell if he is straight or not, he could just be straight and skilled.
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So I had a few massages with a Cambodian boy in Jomtien plaza. Every massage was a work up to a HJ, but I am interested in more. I am not sure if he is a straight boy who just does BJ/HJ, or offers full service. Maybe I will offer baht for FS tomorrow.
Last week, he was trying for a HJ, but I declined. After that, he gave me a desultory standard massage. Actually a HJ would have been nice, but he offered the HJ in the middle of the massage.
Sometimes it's necessary to take control.
I failed to do that in one of the Jomtien massage shops, when a happy ending was provided at the end of the massage, which was after ~20 minutes. [One of the ones on the opposite side of the road from Subway]
So next time I had a massage, firstly it was somewhere else and secondly, I made it very clear that I expect a 1 hour massage to last for an hour.
The worst massage I ever had was in Rama 1V, Bangkok, circa 1999. The massage lasted ten minutes and the vanilla sex twenty. Not only that, but there was no shower , merely a tub of cold water. And the guy turned-out to be the hairiest below the belt I've ever seen. A real turn-off for me.
I check facilities first (after selecting masseur). If there is something I don't like, I skip. A few years ago in Siem Reap, if I remember correctly there was no shower (only cold water tub) which I would have accepted, but there were no towels either! When I raised this point, the masseur went to search for a towel and came back with something that might have been a scarf. I left without massage.
As for the masseur being hairy, that's a big issue for me as well, but now I can estimate body hair from facial hair.
"Perfunctory" sex is surely the best you can expect from someone who'd rather be with a woman?
Not true Oliver, your experience of straight boys is negligable. Mine runs to hundreds. Anyway, even I'd rather be with a young Thai woman than most of you here.
It is fairly easy to tell at least here in Thailand. If you are into the bars and what is left of the GoGo bars you know Jomtien Complex and Winner GoGo the “boys” for the most part with few exceptions are gay and most likely fem twinks (yuck), now the problem arises if you use the apps as their photo seldom shows their true nature.
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When I first went to Bangkok I naively presumed the guys I was sleeping with were all gay. I mean, how could they possibly get it up if they were straight?Quote:
Perhaps this is an oversight on my part, but does everyone else check ?
I still remember my shock and horror when a guy I was planning to off from Dreamboys told me he first had to call his wife and let her know he'd be returning home late. WTF??
As it turned out, he was totally useless in bed. No surprise there, I thought.
But then I met Jack - a slim, toned, handsome guy with an enormous Isaan cock. He performed to perfection. Obviously 100% gay.
The next day when we went shopping he took me upstairs to the bedding section of the department store and introduced me to his "sister."
That's when I realised that gay or straight, it doesn't really matter. It's all about the performance. It's not like I'm looking for a relationship with the guys; I just want to get off. And as my preference is for masculine guys in their mid-twenties, I presume they are probably all straight.
So I never ask about their sexuality. At the end of the day, the guy could tell me what he thought I wanted to hear, and how would I know if he was being truthful?
On my first visit to Bangkok (1997) a cute guy in Khun Cigar bar (splendid name!) said to me that he was straight but he knew what gays liked.
And he did!
Did you "sa-moke" him?
I had another massage with the Cambodian at Jomtien Complex. As usual, halfway through, he tried to give me a HJ, but this time I told him that my dick hurt (which was actually true). He had no idea what to do if he couldn’t do a HJ, so I concluded that he was a straight boy who would go as far as a HJ.
All straight boys will kiss you passionately and the huge majority will smoke you sensually be they in go go bar, host bar or massage place.
yes...one of the pleasureable oddities of Thailamd....an abundance of male straight hookers willing to go all the way with gay clientele....ages ago was told by oner with surprisingly good english that as he didint need an erction it was easier...no fear of not being able to perform....i actually find it terribly satisfying...hes there for one job only and in most cases is able to perform it well...
I find the lack of an erection disconcerting. Is it just me?
nah...dont really care...as long as he's good at bottoming...thats all that matters
so annoying...power bottoms that is...ideally the mb should be straight and fairly masculine and taking dick for the money...NOT for fun...and certainly not gettong off on it...
Perhaps giving or sharing pleasure is a turn-off. Really? Is the guy who seems to enjoy sex denied full payment for his services? perhaps 250bht instead of the usual 500?
I only enjoy straight boys, it is merely a business transaction for my pleasure. I love seeing you old tossers write how the gay boys 30 - 40 years your junior love the sex……..would you have enjoyed sex with your grandfather?
If a persons only objective during sex is to "please themselves" - then the odds of them ever enjoying great sex are slim.
I really believe that if they taught sex education in kindergarten the first thing the teacher would scribble on the blackboard would be "know how to turn your partner on".
If a person can't understand this, then yes, age does make a big difference.
I found my own performance to be greatly enhanced when there were signs-both physical and verbal- that my partner was enjoying himself. At least a little.
As for this depersonalised form of commercial sex, is conversation permitted? Are names and greetings exchanged? pleasantries on farewells? Smiles permitted? or even noticed?
I suppose it's like getting a haircut....at least for someone like me who avoids conversation with his barber. A long as he does what he's paid to do.
This works both ways. Both parties should at least start with a smile.
Reminds me of a lad arriving at my hotel in one Thai town away from the usual gay destinations. He was carrying more weight than I expected and looking particularly miserable. Most lads manage a smile, which I appreciate might not be the easiest thing when meeting someone over twice their age.
However, despite 2 reminders, my miserable visitor still forgot to bring his ID card and therefore I had to send him away. He contacted me about an hour later, but I declined.
fem is definitely not my thing...might as well engage the real thing....not looking for an inbetween...
Massage shops in Chonburi are now closed. :(
I find it slightly sad that some gay men still feel sufficiently victimised by their sexuality to want to hire and use overtly straight boys, presumably gaining some sense of revenge by buggering them - sure in the knowledge that the boy is not enjoying the experience, but suffering it for the money.
I personally get a great sense of achievement if I can detach an outwardly straight boy from the norms he was brought up with to reveal the bisexuality that most men have to some extent. I also get a great sense of satisfaction if I can make a boy much younger than myself rise to the occasion and shoot his load.
I often curse my 100% bisexuality - stuck in the middle in a rather freindless world - but try to make the best of it, not take things out on others.