You are invited to see our HIV Care Center.

G.A.P (Guardian Angels Pattaya)

Cordially invite you or any interested parties you know of, to an
Open day at our Care Center.

on Friday 10th February all day.................from mid-day till 6.pm

To view the facilities which are now in a very advanced state of renovations.
Tea and Coffee with be served.

G.A.P was founded to take care of young guyz, with HIV who do not have the strength any more to find money to pay for a room, food or even the taxi to go to the many hospitals to have blood tests or x-rays even, and are then told to basically go to the Wat or village where they came from to die.

We are sent patients from Dr Phillipe Seur or Banglamong or Chombury or Sattahip Hospitals, also work inconjuntion with Farther Giovanni of the Camillion Center Rayong, so we can monitor there tablet regime, food and general progress, we are hoping also to give them a future by helping them to work back into the community, but mainly giving them the strength through there food to get fit again and strong, as we have found the main problem is not taking in enough vitamins and protean to put on bulk again, then they will deteriorate fast if left to live just on an Issan diet.

The new Care Center is situated in the Soi running between Soi VC and Soi 16 opposite White Knight half way down on the right with the Blue door.
we are looking forward to you dropping in anytime during the day and if you can help also in any way, we will be please for your assistance.

Yours truly the G. A. P team.

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[bkkguy]

on Friday 10th February all day.................from mid-day till 6.pm

I hope they have a better grasp of HIV care than they do of basic concepts like time and English grammar, and if their idea of good scheduling is to send this out on the day itself there is not much hope for them keeping the "guyz" on schedule!

bkkguy

Yes i will drop by but i cant make it today as it takes me 5.5 hrs to get there.

That's too bad, I'm sure you could possibly afford to provide the choc cake or bikkies.

yes its a pity they announced that just few hours before the event started !!! I was still in PTY this morning and would certainly have gone there and even donate something or whatever.... but obviously they need a good guy for marketing for their undoubtfully useful work....

Are the above cheesy replies to the posted message in regard ti the HIV care centre necessary?

This post is actually an informative one, it shows a good side of human nature, and is clearly needed.

Posts such as those in reply to the message are indicative of the downhill slide of this forum.

.... to tell those people that we r actually willing to support them, but we only can do that if they improve their information-policy....

Thanks guys for any feed back at all, even though its a bit of fun, as there is so much sadness in the world and sad People come to that, it is a wonderful thing to have a sense of humor.

It was a very successful opening and as we did not know if even one guy would turn up, to see all those smiling genuine interested people just coming to have a look nothing to do with fund raising, unless you wanted to sponsor one of our Angels, put something towards our up keep or help taking some one to the cinema or beach or even bowling, I'm sure we can arrange this.

The Care Center is nearly completed and it aways nice to know there is some one out there who can help if you come across a guy you think may have a serious problem, Pop him along to us and we will have him screened for you and if necessary can take him in and get him back on the right road to well being again.

As you say you missed all the advertising for the Open day, it was even reported on the very Interesting Roving, "Sunee of Sunee Plaza", weekly report, we can take you round any time, if you either contact us on guardianangelspattaya@hotmail.com or contact Monty on the thefullmontybar@hotmail.com.

Looking forward to seeing some of you guys soon, you will be amazed as the many good people were today, with what we have done in such a short time, if you wish to donate anything you feel we can use bedding furniture, clothes, trainers, or the like, we will be so pleased to accept it not matter how small.

Thank you for your interest, it means so much to us to have the backing of at least some of the gay community.

Kind regards.

The GAP TEAM

I would be very interested to see your work as my Thai boyfriend is HIV+ and I know what a struggle regaining weight and strength can be. He's not in the Pattaya area so wouldn't be able to benefit directly but I would be interested anyway to talk to people who know of the problems he still faces.

I'll be be back in Pattaya myself in June.

bkkguy.

you hit the nail on the head---but can i add ------some of the people involved could be directly responsible for the causation of HIV amongst vulnerable Thai youth ,
most of the poor individuals that have caught this terrible disease are suffering because of having had to work in these dirty little seedy bars , selling their young bodies via loud mouthed old has been falangs ,

-these are not GAY bars, as we know them, many of the falangs that visit are rife with H I V-they don't give a damn or second thought for tha Thais, they would get arrested and slung in jail in their own countries

95% of the young boys and girls, who are in the sex trade are there because of abject poverty in their families,they are driven into the sex trade through desperation , you really think those youngsters enjoy having sex with old men,do you blame them for robbing what they can

here we have a situation where bar owner' trade in young Thai people lives , selling them to generally elderly sex tourists who have not a hell in chance of getting into relationships in their own respective country's, mainly because they are unable to hold proper relationships with guys their own ages , 65 year old and older with youngster's who could be their great grand children ,And they brag about what they do with these kids, in my book old guys of 60 with 20 year old are pedophiles, and psychologically disturbed

then they [the bar owners with hanger ons]- turn around and say they are trying to help prevent HIV and call it charity work and expect praise from all and sundry --

is this done to justify their own pimping-or an attempt to put themselves onto a pedestal of respectability,all the back slapping and boozy fund raising nights doesn't wash with me ,

I'm a gay man of 38 years -i have a thirty five year old lover , we consider ourselves to be normal as far as normal can be on the gay scene

what we and thousands like us see;read; and hear about the goings on in Thailand particularly in pattaya is sickening ,

credit is due where its due , but not to these guys who are only lining there own pockets ,

Thank you for your interest Kun Jon, yes indeed we will be most interested in meeting you and your boyfriend or any one else for that matter, if you need any questions answered our team at GAP will be most pleased to answer them for you.

Our Open Day went amazingly well, Presided over By Dr Phillipe Seur MD The Eminent HIV specialist in Pattaya, with so many others popping in to many to mention here, Dr Phillipe, who to us all in Pattaya is not and Angel but a 'Saint', he was most impressed as we know you will be, when or if you care to visit us soon.

yours sincerely The GAP Team