Am I the only one wondering why they are talking of a 12-18 MONTH development period for a COVID-19 vaccine but we have been waiting now for 40 YEARS for an HIV/AIDS vaccine??
Now it is true that HIV/AIDS is a tougher target -- a) it is caused by a retrovirus rather than a coronavirus, b) HIV/AIDS is known to mutate frequently presumably making it a far harder target to attack.
HOWEVER, 40 YEARS difference? And still no vaccine?
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-c...search-history
Patanawet (April 12th, 2020)
You have answered your own question there. HIV is much more difficult to attack, as it mutates.Originally Posted by Marc K
Additionally, the technical capability for vaccine development has improved immensely in the last 40 years, so anything starting now has a much better chance of succeeding quickly.
oh and most of the rest of the (straight) world dont actually give a flying fuck about finding a cure for HIV probably anyway as it's still seen as a "gay" disease, there is always that too I guess...... :-(
Will let you in on a secret. There is no vaccine coming. There's maybe a KoVid-19 flu shot coming, but that's not a vaccine. It'll decrease your chances of getting the virus, but won't make you immune to it ala a measles or hepatatis immunization.
We're basically all stuck waiting for herd immunity to take effect.
They are wondering if you can get infected twice/reinfected.
As in, a vaccine won't do much good.
But they aren't coming out and SAYING that.
More speculation on little facts so far...
One week they say "the virus might lessen as warm weather approaches".
Isn't it 95 degrees daily in Thailand now?
development hell they've got at least three already.
testing/evaluation takes the time.
Exactly. Don't worry about what any of the politicians are saying, and worry about what the the epidemiologists are saying.
16 months, herd immunity, that's what's happening.
Yes, the warm weather will probably help stop the spreading in the northern hemisphere this summer, but during that time, keep your eyes on the southern hemisphere. If you see on the news a bunch of epidemics breaking out in the southern hemisphere, then guaranteed this virus is coming back in Sept / Oct.
Coming back?
It has to go away first...
Exactly...95 degrees ....and they have had 30 odd deaths.
In the UK it is barely 70 degrees and we have had over 10,000 deaths.
Similar population.
dab69 (April 13th, 2020)
Again, listen to the doctors, not the politicans. Then go look at history and learn about the Spanish Flu.
This thing will have probably, three waves, and will start dissipating shortly. Don't let that calm your nerves though, and keep your eye on South America and Africa during the following summer months. If you call of a sudden see a bunch of epidemics breaking out down there, then guaranteed it's coming back this fall. I guess doctors may magically pull a rabbit out of a hat sometime in the next few months, but wouldn't count on it, and when this thing comes back in the fall, that will be the real death tool.
October, 1918, 600,000 Americans got wiped out due to the second wave of the Spanish Flu. Unless there's some really cool medical break throughs in the next month or two, you can expect the same this time around. I'm currently on day 5 of not smoking, because fuck KoVid-19, and fuck the cigarette companies, and because I have every intention of checking out this world once the virus is over.
Congrats Matt! This must be day 6 by the time you read this. This is terrific news. One less person with that stinking, disgusting habit! But as for checking out, I hope you are with us for many years to come!
As for the virus cooling down in the "summer", I guess we will all have to just wait and see. Listening to Trump on this subject makes me nauseous.
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