Changing Linguistic Habits

[fountainhall]

Last year marked the 50th anniversary of the word "Fuck!" being used live on UK television (is it even permitted today on US tv?). It provoked an outrage, including a public apology from the BBC and the tabling of 4 motions in parliament by 133 MPs. 12 years ago when the phrase "fucking cunts" was used in a tv celebrity game show it provoked fewer than 100 complaints.

It's now not uncommon to see "Fuck" on T-shirts worn by adults. The other day in a Bangkok Starbucks I saw this cap being worn by a boy who can have been no more than 12! Tempora mutantur!

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[latintopxxx]

isnt this how societies collapse...lack of decorum!!

[cdnmatt]

I don't mind swears. I swear too much for my own good anyway, but guess that's what happens when you grow up in a small, redneck oil patch town.

What I don't like is the total slaughtering of the English language. Entire conversations have turned into a bunch of emoticons, coupled with words / phrases turned into 2 - 4 character acronyms -- lol, w8, m8, abt, abn, b4, and the list is endless.

[latintopxxx]

dont knock rednecks...I fucked heaps in the US for only a little bit more than the cost of a Thai MB

[latintopxxx]

...or maybe I should say redneck trailer trash...absolutely the best.

[christianpfc]

Due to excessive use, "fuck" has lost most of its power and is now little more than an indicator of poor manners of the person who uses it.

When I overhear Thai boys (gay or straight) talking to each other and using swear words, it's a turn off for me.

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[latintopxxx]

oh I love it when a cuteness says " u fuck me...1000bht...OK!!"

[bkkguy]

Last year marked the 50th anniversary of the word "Fuck!" being used live on UK television (is it even permitted today on US tv?). It provoked an outrage, including a public apology from the BBC and the tabling of 4 motions in parliament by 133 MPs. 12 years ago when the phrase "fucking cunts" was used in a tv celebrity game show it provoked fewer than 100 complaints...... Tempora mutantur!

this is two way street, as the full phrase from Ovid acknowledges: Tempora mutantur, et nos mutamur in illis (Times change, and we change with them)

and if you want to see where British TV had got to just a few years later grab a copy of the series The Inbetweeners from 2008 - 2010 for a quick into to high school kids language and attitudes to sex - though the follow up movies are best avoided as puerile and predictable

and now every second BBC drama has a gay element just like it was a normal part of life - so some changes are for the better

meanwhile on the positive side here there is christianpfc on the spoken use of fuck and manners and on the negative side of course there is latintopxx on the actual use of fuck and manners!

bkkguy

[fountainhall]

Tempora mutantur, et nos mutamur in illis (Times change, and we change with them)

I don't think I will ever forget when staying with a friend in England in 2003 he showed me the first episode of the original UK version of "Queer as Folk". Perhaps I had been away from the UK for too long, but I was absolutely gobsmacked at what I was seeing - even though it had been restricted to late night network tv.

[christianpfc]

oh I love it when a cuteness says " u fuck me...1000bht...OK!!"

Even though the word is the same, the meaning is completely different. As a verb describing the actual process of, well, fucking, I would be at a loss to find a different word, "penetrate me" or "intercourse me" just don't cut it.

As a swear word or interjection or insult, I object to the frequent use of "fuck".