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    In a nutshell ... Mr Voranai puts it simply

    Put an end to this rebellion

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    Published: 16/05/2010 at 12:00 AM

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    I'm not in a popularity contest. I'm not a two-faced diplomat playing it safe and trying to please everyone. So let me say it loud and clear: It's a rebellion, so put an end to it _ with swiftness, severity and certainty.

    The military coup in 2006 wrongly overthrew the then democratically elected prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra. That was no democracy.
    The coup council handed the power back to the people in 2007. The People Power Party (PPP) won the following election. That was democracy.
    The PPP was banned by the Constitution Court for electoral irregularities and the parliament _ the democratically elected representatives of Thailand _ voted the Democrats into power. That was democracy.
    The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) argue against the Democrat-led coalition government's legitimacy and protest for the government to step down and call a general election. That was democracy.

    And the UDD had won.

    The goals of the UDD from the very start: They wanted a House dissolution. They will have one in September. They wanted a general election. They will have one on Nov 14. All within seven months and PM Abhisit Vejjajiva's term actually ends in January 2012, a year and a half from now. They should be dancing in the streets, celebrating victory. Then we can all go to the voting booth in November. Peace and democracy. But no.

    The truth has revealed itself. The United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship is simply using democracy as a front in the interests of dictatorship. Refusing the peaceful compromise, forsaking the democratic process, continuing to harm the country for the interests of one man, Thaksin Shinawatra, fighting against security forces of the rightful democratic government of Thailand _ that's an uprising, it's a rebellion. It's criminal. That is not democracy.

    If you disagree with me and think the UDD is in the right, then let me simplify it: The next time you're pulled over by the law in a traffic stop, you should just burn tyres, shoot slingshots at the cop and call him a dictator.
    Anyone with an arrest warrant? No need to surrender. Barricade and fortify your home, fire slingshots and fire-crackers and call the law tyrannical.
    Buy a lifetime membership to the Association of Anarchists. You don't belong in a civilisation.

    The UDD leaders agreed to the prime minister's terms. But instead, Thaksin Shinawatra ordered Maj Gen Khattiya Sawasdipol to step on the brake. Because in his mind, he's screaming: ''What about me!'' ''What do I get out of this entire peace and democracy shenanigans!''
    Here's Thaksin's dilemma. Peace and the democratic process don't guarantee his return to power. Someone in Montenegro is kicking and screaming on the floor: ''Me! Me! Me! What about me!''

    Accepting the compromise is a loss of face and may even make PM Abhisit look good in the eyes of the people, for biting the bullet and extending his hand. Thaksin Shinawatra can no longer rely on the voting booths. He can no longer rely on the democratic process.
    The UDD has used democracy as a tool _ manipulated and exploited it to return Thaksin to power. Now that they are no longer confident that the democratic process will serve their interests, the UDD has transformed itself from a democratic movement into an uprising, a rebellion, a criminal organisation.

    It's worth repeating: They wanted a House dissolution. They have one in September. They wanted a general election. They have one on Nov 14. That's democracy. Instead, they flushed democracy down the toilet.

    So there's no negotiation other than the complete and total capitulation by the government to the UDD's every will and every whim. It's a total victory that will embarrass the government in the eyes of the Kingdom and of the world and may possibly bury the Democrat party. That's the game.
    To Thaksin and the UDD, returning Thaksin to power is worth the 50-odd lives already lost. And that figure is bound to rise. More than 1,000 have been injured and that figure will rise. The billions of baht in economic damage. And that figure will rise.

    It's an uprising. It's a rebellion. It's criminal.

    The UDD is screaming: ''Now! Now! Now! Prime Minister resign now!'' Thaksin Shinawatra is crying: ''Me! Me! Me! I want my power back!'' That's not democracy. That's a child that needs to be put across the lap for a good spanking.

    Let me repeat it again: They wanted democracy. They had democracy. We can all go to the voting booth on Nov 14. But they flushed democracy down the toilet and chose instead, a rebellion. And when there's a rebellion, the government must put down the rebellion. Otherwise, we have anarchy. The law must be swift, severe and certain _ any student of criminology can tell you that.

    I've watched television and read newspapers all this weekend. Most so-called intellectuals, academics and media talk about reconciliation. Well, that's easy and safe _ using a thousand flowery words without saying anything worthwhile.
    We reap what we sow. Again, I'm not in a popularity contest. I'm not a two-faced diplomat playing it safe and trying to please everyone. So let me say it loud and clear _ it's a rebellion. To preserve civilisation, the government must put down the rebellion _ swift, severe and certain.

    UDD members have lost their lives. This is unfortunate. It should never have happened. They should all be in our prayers and their families should be assisted in any way possible. But they've died in a rebellion against the rightful, democratic government of Thailand.
    The security forces that have lost their lives. This is unfortunate. It should never have happened. They should all be in our prayers and their families should be assisted in any way possible.

    Journalists and other innocent bystanders have lost their lives. This is unfortunate. It should never have happened. They should all be in our prayers and their families should be assisted in any way possible.
    It didn't have to come to this. It shouldn't have come to this. But here we are on the brink of anarchy because of the pride, greed and vengefulness of one man, and of the indecisiveness, uncertainty and lack of leadership of another.

    Let me repeat: We reap what we sow. It's a rebellion. Put an end to it, swift, severe and certain. Or step down and let the rebels take over. The longer this crisis drags on, the closer we are and the deeper we will be in a state of anarchy.
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    Re: In a nutshell ... Mr Voranai puts it simply

    Quote Originally Posted by Smiles
    Put an end to this rebellion

    Bangkok Post
    Published: 16/05/2010 at 12:00 AM

    __________________________________________________ ___________________

    I'm not in a popularity contest. I'm not a two-faced diplomat playing it safe and trying to please everyone. So let me say it loud and clear: It's a rebellion, so put an end to it _ with swiftness, severity and certainty.

    The UDD is screaming: ''Now! Now! Now! Prime Minister resign now!'' Thaksin Shinawatra is crying: ''Me! Me! Me! I want my power back!'' That's not democracy. That's a child that needs to be put across the lap for a good spanking.

    Let me repeat: We reap what we sow. It's a rebellion. Put an end to it, swift, severe and certain. Or step down and let the rebels take over. The longer this crisis drags on, the closer we are and the deeper we will be in a state of anarchy.
    << http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opin ... -rebellion >>
    My words exactly from 2 days ago and my post was deleted.
    [color=#0000BF]why you no risson[/color]

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    Re: In a nutshell ... Mr Voranai puts it simply

    http://positech.co.uk/democracy/



    [X] Democracy? In a nutshell, I'm missing one word:

    "An oligarchy (from Greek с╜А╬╗╬╣╬│╬▒╧Б╧З╬п╬ , oligarkh├нa) is a form of government in which power effectively rests with a small elite segment of society distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, military might, or religious hegemony. The word oligarchy is from the Greek words "с╜А╬╗╬п╬│╬┐╧В" (ol├нgos), "a few" and the verb "с╝Д╧Б╧З╧Й" (archo), "to rule, to govern, to command".

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    Re: In a nutshell ... Mr Voranai puts it simply

    Quote Originally Posted by stop
    "An oligarchy (from Greek с╜А╬╗╬╣╬│╬▒╧Б╧З╬п╬ , oligarkh├нa) is a form of government in which power effectively rests with a small elite segment of society distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, military might, or religious hegemony.
    ah, so thats what Thaksin's government was called

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    Re: In a nutshell ... Mr Voranai puts it simply

    The decision (if there was any decision from this disorganised mob) by red shirt leaders not to accept Abhisit's roadmap and fulfill their end of the bargain by ending the protests could be one of the worst in Thailand's history.

    I hope the army work quickly because it's getting within spitting distance of all out warfare now.

    Before, the violence was mainly contained within the area of the red shirt camps - aside from the odd incident outside.

    Now it's branching out... This map shows the street battles branching out from the red shirt camp like spider legs. It's caused by other red shirt protesters trying to get into the camp. They're approaching the camp from various directions causing fights and stand offs every place they try.

    http://maps.google.co.th/maps/ms?ie=UTF ... b87b0951c0

    Apparently the number of protesters in the camp has been reduced to 6,000-8,000 but there's a large number running about outside the camp causing chaos now.

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    How can you trust the puppet if you distrust the puppeteers?

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