Discussion of blindness

[christianpfc]

... but I have long accepted that he went blind after a fall at his home in Khon Kaen. He had confirmation of the fact from an American resident of Khon Kaen (who recently returned on the Elite Card scheme with his father and whose name escapes me) and he even posted a photo of himself here with his Lao boyfriend which clearly looked like a blind person to me. ...

On the internet, everyone can be anything they want, be it cndmatt or kkjason or his father. I would not believe what people post in writing or pictures.

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[Dodger]

On the internet, everyone can be anything they want, be it cndmatt or kkjason or his father. I would not believe what people post in writing or pictures.

Appreciate your insight.

Couldn't agree more.

Only blind to their own blindness!

[snotface]

On the internet, everyone can be anything they want, be it cndmatt or kkjason or his father. I would not believe what people post in writing or pictures.

Most of us on a board like this use our common sense to decide, over time, which posters we find believable and which not. I can't see why any of us would bother to stay here at all if we didn't believe anything people say, as you say is the case with you. In the case of kkjason, he has always seemed like an ordinary guy to me with no particular axe to grind. His post about Matt that I quoted comes over as completely convincing to me. But I can quite see why posters with a strong dislike of Matt (of whom you are, I believe, one) might prefer to ignore it. Me, if I thought there was only a slim chance that kkjason is right, I wouldn't want to persist with the repugnant practice of baiting a possibly blind person.

[StevieWonders]

Most of us on a board like this use our common sense to decide, over time, which posters we find believable and which not. I can't see why any of us would bother to stay here at all if we didn't believe anything people say, as you say is the case with you.

I’ve never used “believable” as a criterion. “Entertaining” is definitely something I value however.

[Dodger]

Most of us on a board like this use our common sense to decide, over time, which posters we find believable and which not. I can't see why any of us would bother to stay here at all if we didn't believe anything people say, as you say is the case with you. In the case of kkjason, he has always seemed like an ordinary guy to me with no particular axe to grind. His post about Matt that I quoted comes over as completely convincing to me. But I can quite see why posters with a strong dislike of Matt (of whom you are, I believe, one) might prefer to ignore it. Me, if I thought there was only a slim chance that kkjason is right, I wouldn't want to persist with the repugnant practice of baiting a possibly blind person.

"It's easier to fool people - than to convince them that they have been fooled".

Mark Twain

[snotface]

"It's easier to fool people - than to convince them that they have been fooled".

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you now saying that you no longer believe what kkjason wrote and are retracting your apology to Matt? It wasn't the most gracious apology of all time but at least I respected you for making it. Has christian's airy-fairy post about nobody being believable on the internet changed your mind? You seem sometimes to change your mind with the slightest fluctuation of wind direction. Hard to keep up with.

[Dodger]

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you now saying that you no longer believe what kkjason wrote and are retracting your apology to Matt? It wasn't the most gracious apology of all time but at least I respected you for making it. Has christian's airy-fairy post about nobody being believable on the internet changed your mind? You seem sometimes to change your mind with the slightest fluctuation of wind direction. Hard to keep up with.

snotface:

I was on a 2 year sabbatical from Sawatdee when this topic first surfaced, which resulted in many pages of discussion among members regarding matt's truthfulness, specifically as it related to his "blind" story. I have to be honest with you, I read that entire discussion last night and laughed my ass off through the entire thing. Apparently the photo that matt provided of himself to prove he was blind appeared to be "photoshopped", and in the words of one member, made him look like an alpaca. Sorry, but that's just too funny.

I've received numerous PM's from members in the past 24 hours offering additional insight, including a very thoughtful and well-worded message from kkjason which I received this morning. The information they all provided will remain confidential.

It's not my job to convince you or anyone else to believe or not believe what matt tells you. You'll have to figure that out for yourselves. But, as far as I'm concerned he has some deep-rooted problems to unscramble for himself. And, as far as matt being blind goes, I believe he's only blind to his own blindness, and needs to get honest with himself. When and if he's able to do that, I think he'll see as good as the rest of us.

One final point: Having a visual impairment and being blind are two totally different matters. I'm visually impaired and have to wear reading glasses to correct my vision. If I was blind I certainly wouldn't be spending all day on a computer, or planning another trip to romp around a third-world country. If matt does have a visual impairment (and I believe he does), then I feel sorry for him, but that's a lot different than telling people he's "Blind".

Up to you!

[snotface]

Dodger, you say you have received 'a very thoughtful and well-worded message from kkjason' which naturally intrigues me since he is the only board member, as far as I know, to have known Matt and he clearly states in the post I quoted that Matt 'lost his vision.' Fine if you don't want to publish it but that only leaves me room to speculate. If he is now saying that Matt only lost most of his vision, that ties in with what Matt has said himself (if I recall rightly) that he can still make out approximate shapes but no detail. If so, that's quite bad enough to make cheap jibes implying that he is making the whole thing up right out of order in my opinion.

[Dodger]

Dodger, you say you have received 'a very thoughtful and well-worded message from kkjason' which naturally intrigues me since he is the only board member, as far as I know, to have known Matt and he clearly states in the post I quoted that Matt 'lost his vision.' Fine if you don't want to publish it but that only leaves me room to speculate. If he is now saying that Matt only lost most of his vision, that ties in with what Matt has said himself (if I recall rightly) that he can still make out approximate shapes but no detail. If so, that's quite bad enough to make cheap jibes implying that he is making the whole thing up right out of order in my opinion.

Whatever you're comfortable believing is what you should continue believing. No one is telling you to change your mind.

[Dodger]

Fine if you don't want to publish it but that only leaves me room to speculate.

This is "Life". There's always room to speculate.

Word of advice: If common sense can't take you there - then don't go there.

Snotface, you've already voiced your opinion regarding this topic (matt, and his blind stories) which no one has a right to criticize. I'm certainly not. On-the-other-hand, I think it's time for you to acknowledge that other people have same level of freedom of choice that you have. That door swings both ways.

We're all faced with a broad range of characters on public forums like this and ultimately have to decide which people we feel comfortable holding discussions with, and which people we don't. This just comes with the territory and something I'm quite confident you understand. I personally don't like Trolls (or people who use multiple handles), because they only do this for one reason - and that's to create confrontations and draw negative attention to themselves which they feed on. I have no use for idiots like this...never have. This is my opinion and my prerogative.

Regarding members using the "Ignore" function: This is a tool that the Board Owner provides to all members to allow them to block comments coming from someone they prefer not listening to. No one here has the right to criticize any member for using this function. I have, for the first time in 20 years of posting, decided to use this function to avoid seeing the comments from one particular member who, in my opinion, is a troll who uses multiple handles. I have never once made an attempt to convince others to do the same, nor will I. Again, this is my prerogative.

Personally, I'd much rather be talking about BOYS...SEX...ADVENTURE, and maybe some advice on where to buy some good pancake mix over here, than all this trivial nonsense.