Who can explain?

[christianpfc]

I am far from a conspiracy thinker but the world just doesn't make sense to me. What's going on in Asia and Europe? All the lockdowns and whatnot. I've been to Mexico in Aug en Sep of this year. Nothing needed to get into the country, not even a test. Partying in clubs like crazy! Now, a few months later and things are even more open than before.

It just blows my mind.

Same here. In my layman opinion, Covid is just a hyped annual common flu and without all that testing, nobody would notice a difference between Covid and no Covid.

Dinagam, could you post links instead of screenshots, and think if it it's relevant to the subject of the thread before posting?

[Uranus]

Same here. In my layman opinion, Covid is just a hyped annual common flu and without all that testing, nobody would notice a difference between Covid and no Covid.

You’ve got your PhD in medicine from where?

[goji]

You’ve got your PhD in medicine from where?

When Christian clearly states that he's expressing a layman opinion, why would he need a PhD in medicine ?

I'm also not claiming to have a PhD in medicine, but I can count and am used to working with data.

1 I checked a 6 month period in 2021 and flu or pneumonia appeared on more UK death certificates than COVID.
2 AFTER vaccination, it seems the COVID death rate will be comparable with a bad flu season.
3 Life expectancy has been improving for decades. Covid is setting it back about 5 years, perhaps slightly more if we're pessimistic. However, we still have better life expectancy than at the start of the 21st century.
4 Omicron has a lower hospitalisation ratio than Delta. Most people are now vaccinated.

Therefore, it's time to stop all these crazy restrictions and allow people to live as normal. Those who don't like that can choose to isolate themselves, rather than expect others to do so.

[francois]

Same here. In my layman opinion, Covid is just a hyped annual common flu and without all that testing, nobody would notice a difference between Covid and no Covid.

Christian, can you provide statistics that back up your claims regarding Covid.

[christianpfc]

Christian, can you provide statistics that back up your claims regarding Covid.

I follow news about Covid only loosely, but I once somewhere [citation needed] saw a graph that showed mortality over years, where the annual flue was a light bump, and Covid was a slightly bigger bump.

50 years ago, without current analytical methods, Covid would have gone unnoticed by the general population. Only statisticians would have noticed that there is an increased mortality above natural fluctuations.

[goji]

I follow news about Covid only loosely, but I once somewhere [citation needed] saw a graph that showed mortality over years, where the annual flue was a light bump, and Covid was a slightly bigger bump.

Such data exists.
Also, our life expectancy is better than 20 years ago, possibly better than 10 years ago. We're living in one of the best periods ever for life expectancy. COVID is just some minor noise overlaid on the graph showing good long term trends.

[francois]

I follow news about Covid only loosely, but I once somewhere [citation needed] saw a graph that showed mortality over years, where the annual flue was a light bump, and Covid was a slightly bigger bump.

In the USA, Covid was the third leading cause of death in 2020 accounting for 350,831 deaths while Influenza/Pneumonia was the ninth leading cause at 53,544 deaths.That is a six fold difference. Admittedly, most of the deaths were those over 50 years of age, which if one is younger, it might just be a bump but, to me, it is a human life lost.

[StevieWonders]

In the USA, Covid was the third leading cause of death in 2020 accounting for 350,831 deaths while Influenza/Pneumonia was the ninth leading cause at 53,544 deaths.That is a six fold difference. Admittedly, most of the deaths were those over 50 years of age, which if one is younger, it might just be a bump but, to me, it is a human life lost.

”lost”? I do hope they find it again. An American evangelist once asked me if I had found the Lord. I replied that I didn’t know he was lost

[francois]

”lost”? I do hope they find it again. An American evangelist once asked me if I had found the Lord. I replied that I didn’t know he was lost

Wonder no more Stevie, lost is an euphemism for someone who died,as if you didn't know.

[StevieWonders]

Wonder no more Stevie, lost is an euphemism for someone who died,as if you didn't know.

Lower middle class euphemism