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    Re: Cultural Misunderstanding?

    Quote Originally Posted by loki View Post
    In your previous life in Khon Kaen, apart from the bars and sex tourists, did you feel you'd become so integrated with the culture, that no cultural misunderstandings arose?

    Well, of course cultural misunderstandings arose. I'm not arrogant enough to think I fully understand Thai culture and Buddhism. Nothing that really ever caused much of a problem though, because as it turns out, Thai people were able to tell I'm not Thai, hence give me leeway.

    However, I am quite confident I understand the culture quite a bit better than most people on this forum.

    Why do you think Leo and myself worked out so well? I was capable of empathizing with him, and understand where he's coming from.

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    Why do you think Leo and myself worked out so well? I was capable of empathizing with him, and understand where he's coming from.
    Really? Some of your posts indicate quite the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdnmatt View Post
    Well, of course cultural misunderstandings arose. I'm not arrogant enough to think I fully understand Thai culture and Buddhism. Nothing that really ever caused much of a problem though, because as it turns out, Thai people were able to tell I'm not Thai, hence give me leeway.

    However, I am quite confident I understand the culture quite a bit better than most people on this forum.

    Why do you think Leo and myself worked out so well? I was capable of empathizing with him, and understand where he's coming from.
    Can you recall any amusing events, brought about by cultural misunderstandings between you and Leo?
    Is your passport dilemma situation improving... how long before you'll be able to return to SE Asia?
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    Re: Cultural Misunderstanding?

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    Can you recall any amusing events, brought about by cultural misunderstandings between you and Leo?
    Is your passport dilemma situation improving... how long before you'll be able to return to SE Asia?

    Cultural differences between Leo and myself? Not really, to be honest. Once we met I had already lived in Thailand for 6 years, so could speak Thai with him, knew exactly what village life as a rice farmer was like, had a decent understanding of family life and obligations, the precepts of Buddhism, the Buddhist holidays / festivals, etc. If anything, I would say it took more effort to make him realize I understood his world view than to actually understand it. Plus he's a pretty open minded and independent individual who is open to learning, so that naturally helped.

    As for cultural differences in general? Again, I'd say the largest one is getting over the fact I no longer have privacy, and when people stop me on the street and begin asking questions, not to feel as though they're interrogating me. Instead, realize they're just playing their small role in taking care of the community and ensuring I don't need any help, and everything stays safe and peaceful, etc.
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    The other would have been several times trying to offer money to people after they helped me out. For a good while after going blind I would push my boundaries and limitations a little more than I should thinking I could do it on my own, only to get lost and disorientated. Some random stranger would always help me out, and I'd offer money, and most times they would either scowl at me, or very reluctantly take it. Upon getting home and telling Leo the story, he'd always get pissed off at me, and tell me to never offer money like that again because it's extremely rude, and if someone helps, it's just because they want to help.

    I guess cooking was maybe another one, but that was easy to solve. Just put chilli paste in everything, and it magically turns delicious in his eyes.

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    Re: Cultural Misunderstanding?

    Matt, thanks for your insights.
    Your reverence for Thai culture and Buddhism distinguishes you from the average farang visiting Thailand.
    I hope your passport problems are solved quickly, so you can get back home and resume your life with Leo.
    Any update on your passport renewal?
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    Re: Cultural Misunderstanding?

    Quote Originally Posted by cdnmatt View Post
    ... Some random stranger would always help me out, and I'd offer money, and most times they would either scowl at me, or....
    I know how this is going to go - it's just a matter of who jumps in first

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    Re: Cultural Misunderstanding?

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    I know how this is going to go - it's just a matter of who jumps in first

    Yeah, same here. You get used to it though.

    If people want to exclaim they know Thailand and its culture because they've been to Pattaya a bunch of times, up to them. That's kind of the equivalent of saying the red light district in Amsterdam speaks for all of the Netherlands. That would obviously be a really stupid thing to say, but just watch.... won't surprise me in the slightests if someone jumps in to let us know all Thai people are unintelligent, poverty striken, money grubbing liars.

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    Re: Cultural Misunderstanding?

    Quote Originally Posted by cdnmatt View Post
    Some random stranger would always help me out, and I'd offer money, and most times they would either scowl at me, or very reluctantly take it.
    So they would scowl at you? Now how would you know that?

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    Re: Cultural Misunderstanding?

    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    So they would scowl at you? Now how would you know that?
    See post #20


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    Re: Cultural Misunderstanding?

    Quote Originally Posted by cdnmatt View Post
    Cultural differences between Leo and myself? Not really, to be honest. Once we met I had already lived in Thailand for 6 years, so could speak Thai with him, knew exactly what village life as a rice farmer was like, had a decent understanding of family life and obligations, the precepts of Buddhism, the Buddhist holidays / festivals, etc. If anything, I would say it took more effort to make him realize I understood his world view than to actually understand it. Plus he's a pretty open minded and independent individual who is open to learning, so that naturally helped.

    As for cultural differences in general? Again, I'd say the largest one is getting over the fact I no longer have privacy, and when people stop me on the street and begin asking questions, not to feel as though they're interrogating me. Instead, realize they're just playing their small role in taking care of the community and ensuring I don't need any help, and everything stays safe and peaceful, etc.
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    The other would have been several times trying to offer money to people after they helped me out. For a good while after going blind I would push my boundaries and limitations a little more than I should thinking I could do it on my own, only to get lost and disorientated. Some random stranger would always help me out, and I'd offer money, and most times they would either scowl at me, or very reluctantly take it. Upon getting home and telling Leo the story, he'd always get pissed off at me, and tell me to never offer money like that again because it's extremely rude, and if someone helps, it's just because they want to help.

    I guess cooking was maybe another one, but that was easy to solve. Just put chilli paste in everything, and it magically turns delicious in his eyes.
    You crack me up every time. Remember the sleeping in the village thread, you vastly overestimate your knowledge of culture and customs in Thailand, let alone in lowland Lao.


    But to your defense, the Lao would first have to allow you entry into their beautiful country before you can brush up on your knowledge

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