More hydra talk

[Moses]

I'm really pissed off by this carnival.

Guys, I should remind to all, what board rules are: we don't discuss hydras/clones on public. Use red triangle and provide proof. If you have no proof - well, what we are talking about then?

Should I push penalty for each public accusation in account cloning without proof? Or you will stop this stupid (yes!!! - you are adult) bazaar?

For "short-memory" people I remind: we had proof of Frequent/Sglad clones and Frequent has been permanently banned while Sglad as more older account was punished by 6 months of temp.ban (I think it was 6, but not sure about length and I am lazy to check records).

To Sglad (it is admin's note, no need to answer): your intention to insult people is out of your control now. Please watch it closely: I don't like when one member insulting another member. Post may be provocative or sensational, but it should never be insulting. I made this public warning for to make my hands free: next my action will be temp.ban.

To all: if this carousel will not stopped, I will force 1 day temp.ban for public accusation in cloning without proof.

[goji]

To all: if this carousel will not stopped, I will force 1 day temp.ban for public accusation in cloning without proof.

If I understand correctly:
1 Hydras, clones and trolls are not to be banned (since obtaining proof is impossible, even when it is highly obvious)
2 Genuine board members who call out the hydras get banned ?


It follows that the quality of board content will decline, due to the protection of hydras & trolls, so membership will become less valuable. Hence getting banned would not be a cause for sleepless nights.

A logical response by members:
Put the hydras, trolls and clones on ignore.
Post much less often (which I need to do anyway).
Carry on calling out the hydras, since if the place is infested with them, losing posting privileges doesn't matter as much.

[cdnmatt]

Carry on calling out the hydras, since if the place is infested with them, losing posting privileges doesn't matter as much.

I know you have me on ignore, but what constitutes a troll goji? You think I'm a troll and would have me banned in a heartbeat, so there's that... How about MFAS? He only posts nagative shit, so is he a troll? Or is he cool in your book, because he's a bitter old man, same as you?

We can't have Moses just going around banning someone everytime an 80 year old has a mood swing. Then you're just going to end up with a small group of 80 year olds complaining there's no activity on the forum.

Most importantly, it's YOU guys that are causing all the noise and disruption, not the so-called trolls. It's YOU guys. Seems like everytime I come to this forum now I have to put up with a bunch of cranky old guys flailing their arms like rabid lemurs, "there's a troll, there's a troll!". Stop doing it, and ignore those you don't like.

This is basic shit we learned when we were 4 years old and going to pre-school. Ignore the not nice kids, and go play with your friends. It's really not that novell of a concept.

[Moses]

That's typical "proof" for inquisition, witch-hunting or for lynching...

For your surprise: wanna see who of users log-in to forum from the same IP what are used by sglad?

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So.... if I will use "highly obvious" arguments, I may make some mistakes in conclusions...

[goji]

That's typical "proof" for inquisition, witch-hunting or for lynching...

For your surprise: wanna see who of users log-in to forum from the same IP what are used by sglad?

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So.... if I will use "highly obvious" arguments, I may make some mistakes in conclusions...

An IP lookup website shows all of those IP addresses are in Australia. I've never accessed this forum from in Australia and do not use a VPN. Almost all of of my access this year has been from Thailand & the UK. I believe it's the same for another genuine member on that list.
A third member is blogging from Cambodia.
So how can that IP data be useful ?

Meanwhile, it remains obvious that certain handles are clones.

[mr giggles]

Use red triangle and provide proof. If you have no proof - well, what we are talking about then?
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Agreed

[Armando]

IFor "short-memory" people I remind: we had proof of Frequent/Sglad clones and Frequent has been permanently banned while Sglad as more older account was punished by 6 months of temp.ban (I think it was 6, but not sure about length and I am lazy to check records).

To Sglad (it is admin's note, no need to answer): your intention to insult people is out of your control now. Please watch it closely: I don't like when one member insulting another member. Post may be provocative or sensational, but it should never be insulting. I made this public warning for to make my hands free: next my action will be temp.ban.

To all: if this carousel will not stopped, I will force 1 day temp.ban for public accusation in cloning without proof.

I endorse Moses comments and will self-moderate comments about other posters.

So now we know that sglad was banned because he was a hydra posting at the same time as sugargrandpa AND he was banned again because he was posting as sglad AND Frequent. I don't expect an answer, but I wonder how many times a hydra is permitted to return and continue with posting privileges before a total ban is put into effect.

[Moses]

I endorse Moses comments and will self-moderate comments about other posters.

So now we know that sglad was banned because he was a hydra posting at the same time as sugargrandpa AND he was banned again because he was posting as sglad AND Frequent. I don't expect an answer, but I wonder how many times a hydra is permitted to return and continue with posting privileges before a total ban is put into effect.

We forever ban clones but we don't ban "puppeteer" forever. Most old account from clones we count as puppeteer and only temp.ban it as a penalty for creating clone.

[Surfcrest]

I endorse Moses comments and will self-moderate comments about other posters.

So now we know that sglad was banned because he was a hydra posting at the same time as sugargrandpa AND.....blah blah blah...

That was all explained in detail at the time, if you were here as a different member name back then. I’d encourage you to use the search button, instead of rewriting history.

And please don’t confuse publicly with transparency.

Surfcrest

[Brad the Impala]

I endorse Moses comments and will self-moderate comments about other posters.

Will you tell us what other handles you have posted under? You seem to know a lot about the history of posters for someone who only registered nine months ago!

Perhaps we should have our version of the Truth and Reconcliation Commisission whereby everyone comes clean and we can go back to posting, and reading, about the more important things in life.

I'll start it off. I used to post as Charles, and then about 15 or 20 years ago we all had to re-register for some reason and needed to choose a different handle. Clearly I could have chosen something imaginative like Charles 2, but for some reason I went completely over the top(possibly pissed), but have nevertheless stuck with this name ever since.