The reality is that - apart from a single question, binary-answer referendum - there's no such as a mandate except in the fevered imagination of the winning party and its one-eyed supporters. If an incumbent governing party goes to an election with a shopping list of proposals - or even one proposal - and then has their substantial majority cut to one, do they have a mandate for anything at all??Originally Posted by scottish-guy
Last edited by frequent; May 7th, 2017 at 10:33.
Here's another one for you to not read. But not reading it won't make it less true
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...vatives-labour
As of now, they haven't left yet.
Justaguy wrote:
"As of now, they haven't left yet."
Well in fact Scotland never actually joined, The UK did. Under the laughably absurd proposal by Sturgeon, Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland could remain members of the EU while The UK leaves.
Ever the deep thinker
If you actually wish to be taken seriously , you need start informing yourself much, much better.
However I suspect it's just sheer mendacity on your part, so you need to stop just plain fucking lying about stuff you clearly know nothing about
The proposal set out a range of options - from Scotland remaining in the EU to the red line position that Scotland should remain in EFTA (i.e. the customs union) while the UK left the EU. The First Minister of Scotland made no proposals for N Ireland or Wales or England as a unitary state.
The proposals (for Scotland) were described within the EU as perfectly workable given political will. The UK Govt vetoed the document of course.
"Professor Miguel Poiares Maduro, a former Advocate General at the European Court of Justice, said Scotland could have thrived if the UK Government had allowed them to stay in the EU.
The Scottish Governmnet had proposed a deal which would have allowed Scotland to remain in the single market after the rest of the UK leaves the EU , but Tory Brexit minister David Davis ruled it out, calling it unworkable
" Prof Maduro, was giving evidence to the European Parliament’s committee on Constitutional Affairs/ He told the committee: “There is another possibility that is to have that some UK citizens maintain citizenship of the European Union and other won’t.”
He added: “Nothing prevents a part of the United Kingdom to stay and another part of the United Kingdom to leave. We have a precedent with that — it’s called Greenland.”
Prof Maduro then went on to say: “We have the case of one member state where part of its territory left the European Union and the other part stayed. So in principle nothing would prevent the territories, for example, of Northern Ireland and Scotland to stay in the European Union and for the rest of the territory of the United kingdom no longer to be part of the EU.
“Of course this will be complex to organise in practice....but it will not be impossible."
Scottish wrote:
"The proposal set out a range of options - from Scotland remaining in the EU.".....
That's what I said. So if Scotland can remain in the EU then so can the three other countries that make up The UK. While The UK leaves. Fucking ridiculous but then Sturgeon is losing credibility almost by the day.
Did the Tories not declare victory in 2015 despite having no overall majority? It's called a Hung Parliament and it has happened at least 3 times in living memory.
At other times elected Governments lose their overall majority but still carry on.
Councils up and down the UK routinely operate where no party has an overall majority
The lack of an overall majority does not mean you did not win the election - as you well know - so this is yet more mendacity from the board's resident "Blood and Soil" Ultra Brit Nat.
The figures Arse-Piece won't tell you.
2012 Council Elections:
SNP 425 seats = 34.8%
2nd party (LAB) 394 seats = 32.2%
2017 Council Elections:
SNP 431 seats = 35.1%
2nd party (Tory) 276 seats = 22.5%
Tell me again : WHO WON?
Mind-boggling - a "hung" parliament you say?
In Blackaddder Goes Forth, General Melchett thought that shouting would win the war. "Baaah." Now Scottish thinks doing the same will stop the decline of his party. It won't. It's INEVITABLE.
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