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    Re: Thai Tourists the Main Focus for Pattaya

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    The widely held assumption that vaccinated people are less of a risk does not hold up well to scrutiny. Vaccinated people are catching Delta somewhat less easily than the unvaccinated, but it is still working its way through their numbers..
    It's well-established that vaccinated people are less likely to get the virus than unvaccinated people, and experience much milder side-effects in the event they do. Thus the reason every country on earth is racing to get as many people vaccinated as possible.

    Having a population that's mostly vaccinated doesn't prevent a person from getting the virus, I don't think anyone would debate that fact, but the risk of hospitals being overwhelmed with covid patients resulting from a super-spreader are much less in an environment where the majority of people are vaccinated, for the mere fact that the symptoms are so much milder.

    When the hospitals are overwhelmed (over capacity) - then everyone's at risk. This has already happened once in Thailand caused by the rapid spread of the highly contagious Delta Variant and I don't think anyone wants to see a rerun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodger View Post
    It's well-established that vaccinated people are less likely to get the virus than unvaccinated people, and experience much milder side-effects in the event they do. Thus the reason every country on earth is racing to get as many people vaccinated as possible.
    The wider benefits of vaccination, such as protecting health services from overload, are undeniable, but at an individual level, are you safer partying with a crowd of vaccinated people or unvaccinated? Because the vaccinated are far more likely to be asymptomatically infected - but still infectious - you are probably better off with the un-jabbed..

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    Re: Thai Tourists the Main Focus for Pattaya

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    Because the vaccinated are far more likely to be asymptomatically infected - but still infectious - you are probably better off with the un-jabbed..
    What is your source of data for this ?

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    What is your source of data for this ?
    A combination of what has been reported in national media and backed up by correspondence with friends and family.

    A lot of vaccinated people get very slight symptoms, notably fatigue, that they do not immediately recognise as illness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old git View Post
    A combination of what has been reported in national media and backed up by correspondence with friends and family.
    I haven't seen any such reports in the media. Here is some data from the UK ONS showing the reduction in odds of getting covid after vaccination. At least half, often a lot more.
    The reduction in severe illness is much more, over 90% (as is widely reported elsewhere).

    I've included a second graph which shows the people who don't wear masks are about 1.6 times as likely to get covid as those who wear masks. Do bear in mind that the average Brit will wear a poor quality decorative face mask, prioritizing style over substance and it still gives a useful improvement. More can be achieved with an FFP2 or FFP3 mask.

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