gumblebee, I don't question what you're saying about your own personal experiences, but just have to say that in 24 years...a thousand boys...a thousand offs...in hundreds of bars...in a slew of provinces, I have yet to ever once have a working boy refuse to go off for a short time.
I have been witness to situations where a boy would refuse to go off with a farang (short time, or long time), because the farang was deemed as being undesirable in some manner or a threat to the boys wellbeing - but these occurrences are extremely rare IMO.
As far as the topic of this thread "What is the current rate"... I'm sure the boys would appreciate larger tips at this stage considering the "survival mode" they're in, but would never complain if you tipped the same amount you've been tipping them for the past 20 years.
Up2U.
I don't recall any refusing to do short time.
What type of lad are you chatting to ? Age, build etc ? Are they looking for long term relationships ?
I know of some who are well past their prime & nearing the end of their careers, who would be delighted to do long time, as I suspect they don't get much business.
The younger ones seem keener on short time.