Ok guys I think you are missing the point of my OP! I am not suggesting we succumb to the inadequate "apps" of today. I agree that they are minimal at best and open to lots of disappointment (think Romeo, Grindr, Hornet...). What we have to look forward to (I hope!) is a new generation of "boy apps" -- not holograms, not used cars, not chat apps -- but rather a re-imagining of the process of meeting. (I gave one example in my OP (message #1). There are many other that one can imagine.)
I think this transformation will come about for two reasons:
1. The technology will be available and affordable to support it.
2. The "old way" (sleaze bars where the mafia makes most of the profit) will become socially unacceptable in Thailand, as it has become in most of the world as Thailand develops its economy. Fewer boys will want to work there if they have some other option. At root after all Thailand is quite a conservative society in many ways.
I would be perfectly happy to see A-Bomb close completely and forever. I never did like their practices -- overcharging if they can get away with it. A mercurial manager who is often a real PIA. Over-age boys who are indeed well-used and past their prime. Prices which seem to continually go up. Allowed smoking regardless of the law. In fact, last time I visited (October 2019?) it was quite a pitiful sight.
I do not understand how A-bomb continues to survive!
Every time I go all I see is unattractive boys and expensive drink prices.
"wholly specious analogy"
Ooohhh.
Second-wave sexual technologies have been in development for years, where the younger techno wizards (digisexuals) are already interested in turning to advanced technologies, such as robots, virtual reality (VR) environments and feedback devices (teledildonics), to take the place of human partners. I wonder how these advancements would effect on-line dating apps in the future.
If these technologies continue forward, people would be able to enjoy sex in a virtual reality environment with a partner (or partners) to their exact preferences, e.g. gender, weight, height, body shape, hair color, age, skin color, and even penis size/shape., etc.
A 14 day quarantine could be a "Holiday" in-and-by-itself.
I agree one would never buy a car without seeing it at the showroom, or better, the private seller's nicely kept house. However, to avoid driving 50 miles and finding that a "full service history" is missing 40,000 miles of servicing, it's best to ask a few questions before going. Then also check the vehicle.
The same applies with boys on apps -asking questions reduces the probability of disappointment.
The other advantage of the apps is that it's possible to have simultaneous discussions with several boys, so if some don't like what you want in bed, then it's easier to terminate the discussion.
Of course I also visit bars & if I go back about 3~4 years, there were trips where every single lad was from a bar. Obviously there's the advantage of seeing a lad in the flesh. If it's a gogo, we can check for eye contact etc.
However, if I have some doubts about his responses, I do find it a little bit more difficult to send him away and start interviewing another one. Particularly in host bars.
The brain is thinking "you're not going to be any good in bed, so could you scoot off and bring me that cute lad over there instead?". Unfortunately, I'm too diplomatic to say that.
In my first ten years in Pattaya, I'd spend an evening traveling from bar to bar (plenty of them in the1990s) trying to find the right guy. Sometimes I'd see one hundred plus before making a choice.
And still I got it wrong on occasions. What you see on the stage, you don't necessarily get in the hotel. And what you see on arrival in the room, you don't always get in bed. Caveat emptor.
As do the money-boys. I wonder how often they regret their willingness to be offed? they don't know what will happen when they are alone in a hotel room or a private residence. Will their falang have unusual sexual proclivities? will he pay fairly?
I learnt to accept that sometimes I'd get a dud. And the blessing is that a Thai dud doesn't offer much in bed; duds in other countries can be violent or dishonest. And a lot more expensive.
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i like the comparison with buying a car...new or used...when buying either I always go for a test drive...no charge obviously...bit like buy before u try...same should apply..mb should show up all bright eyed and lubed up bubble butted...ready to let me explore every orifice before i decide...BUT OH WAIT...thats exactly what I do in a gogo bar...chosen mb sits next to me...gets a drink...I proceed to explore his body...orifices included...before deciding...guess its not free as drinks have to be paid for...
.....as for turning cat fish away...I have no problem...if the photo is a total misrepresentation I laugh and tell it to keep walking...if its kinda doable...price gets quickly renegotiated...
Really now? A huge number of people are doing that right now! Think, CARVANA for example. One of the hottest stocks on Wall Street at the moment. And in 2000 we had iMOTORS which did a great job, but unfortunately was way before its time. My better-half bought a car from iMotors back then and still gushes about the deal he got.
Now I never suggested that apps (old generation or next generation) are ideal or foolproof ways to search for boys, but I do think that is where things a heading. I just hope someone out there has a new, innovative idea for the next generation app.
I gave one suggestion in my original message (see message 1). Here is another, using AR. (Similar somewhat to the Flightrader app.) You go to a gay location (bar, beach, street) and if you somehow aim your phone at the person then "AR" data becomes available (phone number, Line ID, nickname, stats, or whatever he wants to share) and you have a way of signaling interest in him... Well I will leave the rest of the process to your imagination. : )