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    Re: Retirement Visa

    Jellybean:
    I doubt very much that the Thai Immigration department is concerned with the source of your income; my belief is that they are only interested in the monthly amount of your income and that it can be shown to originate from a foreign source. Therefore, as long as your dividend and any other income amounts to at least 65,000 Baht per month, that’s all that will concern them.
    From General Information section of Pattaya City Expats Club webpage for Visa & Immigration – Extending Stay (source: http://www.pattayacityexpatsclub.com...endingStay.pdf])

    Thai Immigration issued an amendment to order 138-2557 stating the documentary evidence required if the applicant chooses to use monthly income as their financial resource for qualifying extension based on being related to a Thai including marriage (Section 2.18 of each police order) or on retirement in the Kingdom (Section 2.22 of each police order). Thai Immigration issued another supplemental police order35/2561effective March 1, 2019, to change the financial requirements for qualifying for an extension based on retirement.
    The Amendment to Police Order 138-2557 shows the following regarding documentation to support use of monthly income (source is copy ThaiVisa.com translation of the order:http://pattayacityexpatsclub.com/exp...1-Jan-2019.pdf)

    2.22 Retirement - Document
    1. Application form
    2. A copy of the applicant’s passport
    3. Evidence showing income such as pension or interest received or dividend received and/or;
    4. Certification letter from the bank in Thailand and a copy of bank book.
    5. In the case of (6), the same documents as described in I - 4 are required.

    Item 5 above that refers to item (6) relates to item (6) in the original Police Order to which this amendment applies.

    2.22 Retirement - Procedures

    Evidence showing income not less than 65,000 baht monthly includes:
    1) Evidence showing pension - a letter of certification on deposit in the bank in Thailand and bank statement showing money transfer from overseas every month for the past 12 months. Except in a case where the applicant's retirement is less than 1 year, the evidence must be from the month of retirement. For example, the retirement is started in October 2018, the applicant must show pension payment evidence from November 2018 and pension payment evidence of the whole 12 months is required for the next year or;
    2) Income certification certified by the embassy or consular.

    As noted, it includes “Evidence showing pension." Based on some recent reports from Jomtien Immigration Office, they are asking to see evidence of the source of the pension/income. They are also requiring a letters from your bank reporting the monthly deposits to the account and verification of the account in addition to copies from the passbook.

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    Re: Retirement Visa

    Presumably Immigration is fully aware that the letter setting out, for example, US Social Security entitlements is self-generated for all those who have an online account and easily modifiable for anyone with a PDF editor? I see a lively business opportunity for the Khaosan Rd forgers

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    Re: Retirement Visa

    One more thing you'll need to factor in, dab69 - does your US health insurance cover you in Thailand? As from today all O-A visa applicants must have a mandatory level of health insurance. Overseas-originated cover is acceptable, but if you don't have that, budget on an extra 8-10,000 baht a month (based on your age) for Thailand-based insurance. Apparently the requirement also covers those extending their visa - yes Smiles, that means you, if your original visa was O-A

    I suggest you join the discussion among the headless chickens on Thaivisa rather than venting here

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    Re: Retirement Visa

    Quote Originally Posted by frequent View Post
    As from today all O-A visa applicants must have a mandatory level of health insurance
    and how many of us here are actually on O-A visas?

    and it has been approved by cabinet but there has been no implementation date and actual implementation details announced by either the Foreign Ministry (responsible for issuing the NON O-A visas) and the Interior Ministry and Immigration Bureau (responsible for allowing you to enter the country using your NON O-A visa)


    Quote Originally Posted by frequent View Post
    Apparently the requirement also covers those extending their visa
    not according to the article in The Nation that seams to have sparked this latest bout of knicker-twisting - it applies to those renewing their NON O-A visa

    since there are no procedures, either in Immigration Offices in Thailand or embassies and consulates outside of Thailand, to renew or extend a visa perhaps the Health Service Support Dept official making the announcement and the Nation journalist should spend a bit more time running this past Immigration or Foreign Office officials who could perhaps help with the terminology and also perhaps help with the implementation details and if/when it will actually get implemented

    How many times do we actually have to go through this mass debate before people wake up to themselves!

    I actually think ThaiVisa pays The Nation to publish this type of article just to generate forum traffic - and thus ad revenue! At least the article last December when the concept was approved by the Medical Hub Committee was not quite so useless but still generated pages of ThaiVisa forum breast-beating from people who don't know what visa they have and are convinced Immigration is persecuting them.

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    Re: Retirement Visa

    Quote Originally Posted by frequent View Post
    One more thing you'll need to factor in, dab69 - does your US health insurance cover you in Thailand? As from today all O-A visa applicants must have a mandatory level of health insurance. Overseas-originated cover is acceptable, but if you don't have that, budget on an extra 8-10,000 baht a month (based on your age) for Thailand-based insurance. Apparently the requirement also covers those extending their visa - yes Smiles, that means you, if your original visa was O-A

    I suggest you join the discussion among the headless chickens on Thaivisa rather than venting here
    Actually, the requirement for applicants for Non-Immigrant O-A Visas do not yet have to have health insurance. The Cabinet has approved the requirement, but as mentioned in the articles published on the subject, the Ministry of Health (who made the announcements) also said that they would need to coordinate with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (that Ministry will need to instruct Thai Embassies/Consulate to implement the requirement) and the Immigration Bureau (Ministry of Interior/Royal Thai Police) before the requirement becomes effective. Further the MofH spokesperson said that it would most likely be July before that happens. So, until then all applicants for an O-A Visa do not yet have a requirement to have health insurance.

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