?? But then how would that lock the farang into the deal for years to come ? Come on Joe, you're not thinking like an Asian here ......get with the programme. But alas I'm guessing if poor Leo is still at the stage of having to bluff shame Matt into paying for gold for his sick mother then he's still a whiles to go before getting him to fork out bigger money for the years to come. Or maybe Matt ( as he trusts him empathically) could just cut out all the stuff in between and just GIVE him his savings now and then Leo could look after all that end of things whilst Matt just kicks backs and relaxes more - as as you've already said you trust him empathically etc Matt you DID give Leo the pin numbers to ALL of your bank / bitcoin accounts etc Matt - didn't you ??