Kevin Spacey

[Nirish guy]

Especially considering that the legal age of Consent in Ireland is I believe 17 !!

[joe552]

Yes NIrish, I believe it's 17.

[latintopxxx]

Read another interesting article linked to this questioning the use of teen boys as male fashion models, giving them sex appeal and thus desirable.

[cdnmatt]

matt can you point out where I said I had sex with a 16 year old? That's a serious allegation.

You don't remember? Jesus, life is more difficult when you remember every thing, and everyone else seems to conveinently forget everything.

I never said you *had* sex with a 16yo. I said that you made a post saying you *want* to have sex with a 16yo. I don't know, I'm blind, so I'm not going to bother. Go look at your own post history, and you will see it.

Maybe you were too drunk to remember making that post. Oh right, kind of like Spacey. Plus you're planning a sex tourism trip to Thailand shortly, so if anything, you're a far more danger to societty than Spacey.

I have yet to understand why there's such vitriole attitude towards this, when the evidence so far presented showsabsolutely nothing.

[bobsaigon2]

Yes, 17 in Ireland. More details and comparisons at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe

[cdnmatt]

Oh, that good old defense. It wasn't my fault the store owner left the cash register open, so don't blame me for stealing the money.

Sorry for coming down on you like this. It's just quite comical that you think this Spacey thing is a huge ordeal. [referring to above messages]

May I ask, why the desire to throw Spacey under the bus like this? Because he's gay? Because he came out as gay? Because he's a very famous Hollywood actor? Because he's really rich? Why?

[joe552]

I have asked Moses to delete the two posts. They were inappropriate for an open forum. I apologise to all concerned.

[sglad]

I think its important to note that what Harvey Weinstein is accused of and what Kevin Spacey is accused of are two separate things. The intention may have been the same, but Weinstein is actually being accused of rape whereas Spacey attempted sexual assault. Why is forty something Anthony Rapp bringing this up now? Because he thinks his situation is similar to the other #metoo revelations? Was Spacey advancing Rapp's career somehow by having sex with him or is this merely opportunism on Rapp's part?

No doubt, having sex with or trying to have sex with someone this young is bad enough. Is Spacey a pedophile or did he find a young boy in his bedroom, after a party where all the other guests had gone home already and what may have crossed a few people's minds, Spacey went way too far with?

His next greatest mistake was coming all out with it and spoiling his coming out. Was it to get it out into the open or to be accepted into the gay community as one of ours....because the later certainly didn't work.

Surfcrest

Rapp is coming out with the story now because the floodgates have opened for victims of rape, assault and other inappropriate, predatory behaviour to speak out safely. They feel safe because they know they are not alone and the public is listening because theirs is not an isolated case. Kudos to the two NYT journalists who broke the story; they created this safe space and I sincerely hope they win the Pulitzer. The majority of Weinstein’s victims weren’t raped but his other abusive, predatory actions towards them have been just as deserving of rebuke.

Incidentally this is not the first time Rapp has spoken of this incident. This is the first time he mentioned Spacey by name. He first spoke of the first incident in an interview with The Advocate in 2001 but the magazine had withheld Spacey’s name then. The Advocate has corroborated Rapp’s story and I suppose the climate created by the Weinstein firestorm has made it conducive to mention Spacey by name now. You can read The Advocate interview here:

https://www.advocate.com/news/2001/0...-everyone-else

Rapp is not some starving actor seeking fame and fortune. He’s had a long Broadway career and is in a successful TV series. He doesn’t need the money or the publicity.

Spacey knew how old Rapp was at the time; they had been working in a play together and it was Spacey who had invited him to the party. Rapp said he was bored because all the other guests were too old and he had withdrawn into a bedroom to watch TV.

Don’t forget; Spacey has not refuted Rapp’s allegations - merely that he didn't remember the incident - and tacitly admitted that he might have fiddled with the 14-year-old while being horribly drunk, as if that's an acceptable justification.

As others have said, this is just the tip of the iceberg for Spacey; predatory behaviour is rarely isolated and is usually part of a pattern. Here’s one report alleging this:

http://www.thisisinsider.com/men-who...t-list-2017-11

Conflating his sexual orientation/coming out with his predatory behaviour was not some honest “mistake”; it was a tactical miscalculation by his crisis management team and it backfired big time. I watched this old movie on TV once - can't remember the title - but it was about this American president who was caught fiddling a little girl and his PR team created a fake war to deflect attention from it. I didn’t sense an ounce of sincerity from Spacey’s Twitter message; it was damage control that put him deeper into the ground. I wonder if his PR team did it on purpose because they are tired of all the damage control they’ve had to do covering his ass (so to speak) over the years. I mean surely they’d know that this BS wouldn’t work – the PR industry is filled with literate gays who’d be attuned to (or been targets of) attitudes, perceptions and negative stereotypes of gay people and gays being kiddie fiddlers is one of the stereotypes that gay advocates have been trying very hard to fight.

Although the statute of limitations would make a lot of these crimes no longer prosecutable, I’m still glad that these stories are coming out and I hope more victims will come forward to share their stories. If nothing else, a predator might think twice before trying to make a move on his next victim and the ones who think they’ve got away, will now be looking over their shoulders wherever it is they’re hiding, be it Hanoi, Dublin or The Gold Coast.

[Surfcrest]

Don’t forget; Spacey has not refuted Rapp’s allegations - merely that he didn't remember the incident - and tacitly admitted that he might have fiddled with the 14-year-old while being horribly drunk, as if that's an acceptable justification.

As others have said, this is just the tip of the iceberg for Spacey; predatory behaviour is rarely isolated and is usually part of a pattern. Here’s one report alleging this:

http://www.thisisinsider.com/men-who...t-list-2017-11

There's a lot of fake news inflating your post.

Where do you see anything about fiddling Rapp? Roberto Covazos was 26 at the time of his incident and Tony Montana relates he was in his 30's. Was Spacey's guilt, that he as a gay man or closeted gay man making advances towards these men or that they were much younger? He's no more a predator as someone climbing into a baht-bus to go to the bars to pick someone up in my opinion. Where were Rapp's parents, through all of this?

Surfcrest

[latintopxxx]

joe.....u had sex with him so its your responsibility..yours only.... noone elses. Only reason (not excuse) u could have is if he presented a fake ID that fooled both u and the bar.
Anyway I dont really understand the fascination [referring to above post]...much rather have a guy in his mid twenties.