Pattaya

[RonanTheBarbarian]

But he didn't say it like that, did he, at least I didn't think he did? He posed an open-ended question with no mention of wanting or not wanting paid sex. Certainly I don't recall him making any criticism of it, at least not initially.

Well, his opening question was : "Pattaya - Is it all go go bars? Is there any gay nightlife that doesn't revolve around that symbiotic relationship of selling and buying sex?"

Perhaps it WAS meant as straightforward question, but the undertone of it was pretty clear, in my mind anyway.

Perhaps Omega just happens to have an unfortunate tendency to ask innocent questions in a somewhat aggressive way?


By the way, chuffed to get all the "likes" in my previous post, when I reread it myself after posting it seemed like a turgid repetition of the bleedin obvious, so glad to see that a few people thought it was worth spelling out anyway.

[whitemouse]

Well, his opening question was : "Pattaya - Is it all go go bars? Is there any gay nightlife that doesn't revolve around that symbiotic relationship of selling and buying sex?"

Perhaps it WAS meant as straightforward question, but the undertone of it was pretty clear, I thought...

Perhaps Omega just happens to have an unfortunate tendency to ask innocent questions in a somewhat aggressive way?

All of Omega's questions have been about sex, this thread, and his 'newby' advice thread, where is one and ONLY question how safe is it bring pills that allow him to fuck without condoms to Thailand. All very innocent, a young man curious about Thai culture, man finding himself in a distant land of temples and such, discovering Silk Road. Nothing to do with sex at all, ESPECIALLY dirty, paid sex! This young man is pure!

LOL.


The reason Omega and Sglad understand each other so well, to the point they're almost able complete each others sentences, is because they are very likely related. Earlier Sglad deciphered Omega's vague question about where to party in very expert fashion. To most English speakers wanting to 'party' means getting high, but Sglad accurately translated it to mean wanting to go dancing. I'm sure he meant FREE party, because it has to be free. Paying is for dirty old men!!

[whitemouse]

The reason Omega and Sglad understand each other so well, to the point they're almost able complete each others sentences, is because they are very likely related.

And I'm pretty sure Omega and Sglad have a third brother in Khon Kaen, that blind dude with 'couple of cool dogs' .

[a447]

The reason Omega and Sglad understand each other so well, to the point they're almost able complete each others sentences, is because they are very likely related.

A bit like the "relationship" between sgdad and sugargrandpa, perhaps?

Lol

[sglad]

Well, his opening question was : "Pattaya - Is it all go go bars? Is there any gay nightlife that doesn't revolve around that symbiotic relationship of selling and buying sex?"

Perhaps it WAS meant as straightforward question, but the undertone of it was pretty clear, in my mind anyway.

Perhaps Omega just happens to have an unfortunate tendency to ask innocent questions in a somewhat aggressive way?

Aaah...okaayy...you should have read this thread in conjunction with his Advice for a newbie to Thailand thread:

https://sawatdeenetwork.com/v4/showt...ie-to-Thailand

In that earlier thread he introduced himself, gave us some info about his background and told us of his travel plans. In other words, he was providing some context as to where he's coming from and what he's looking for. This thread is a sequel to that thread, and the focus has been narrowed down to Pattaya here because the OP is no longer so sure about visiting Pattaya based on what others had said about it. It seems to me that he started this thread to seek some kind of confirmation as to whether Pattaya would still suit his purposes or might an extended stay in Phuket which offers a "mixed scene" (his words) be more worth his while. He's also seeking information on Chiang Mai and other places. Pretty benign stuff and some of the replies, for eg, from Moses, have been quite helpful.

I'm not so sure I would call his question, "Is there any gay nightlife that doesn't revolve around that symbiotic relationship of selling and buying sex?" "somewhat aggressive". How is it aggressive? Pattaya does have a certain reputation, one which is held up by the responses in his "Advice for a newbie thread."

Some of the responses in the two threads have been misleading. One is "Chiang Mai is less sex-focussed". My friends visiting from Singapore, China, Indonesia and elsewhere have their apps pinging all the time with requests to meet from local guys as well as each other. They get really busy at the saunas. There's plenty of sex to be had in Chiang Mai. Straight friends say the same.

Secondly, I think it was fatwhiterat who said that other visitors are only interested in meeting locals and not fellow tourists. This is total and utter rubbish. This is what's beautiful about the big cities in Thailand. They're social melting pots and party venues that attract gay guys from all over Asia and beyond especially during festivities like Songkran, Christmas and New Year. Their social and sexual interests are not limited to Thai guys and in a party atmosphere, boundaries and preferences tend to become even more fluid.

Thirdly, regardless of what the three witches of Macbeth say, I have not thought much about commercial sex to have a strong opinion about it. I don't think it's "dirty" or "clean". I don't spend my evenings wondering whether the prostitute who gave me that lovely smile has a secret crush on me or only wants me my for my Sg dollar. He smiled at me, I smiled back at him. That's it. I've been to some of the go go bars and they were OK and sometimes fun but I'm in no hurry to go back. It's more of a fun-night-out stopover after dinner to see a sexy show before my friends and I head out elsewhere. Personally, I've found the ordinary Thai guys that I've met in daily life more to my liking than the ones I've seen at the go go bars. It's a matter of taste and preference and that's all there is to it. No need to project your own guilt and insecurities onto others - as the Thais like to say, "Don't think too much!"