The Kiss

[firecat69]

And thankfully that seems to be the predominate feeling here despite what the OP feels or feels we should feel.

[firecat69]

Cannot imagine younger Thais giving it a 2nd thought

A deep kiss with bodies clenched together lasting at least 30 seconds in a very public place? Some younger Thais including some young mothers with schoolchildren were certainly 'concerned' about it. I've lived here for more than 12 years and I have never seen this degree of intimacy between two guys in all that time - qualified by at this time of day and in this kind of public space.

Re Up2U's comment, Saladaeng may be the gateway to the gay areas, but that's at night. This was around 11:00 am.

Your words intimacy between 2 guys and that is what bothered you and why have never replied to my assertions that this is what bothered you until your last post where you felt challenged so you give some hyperbole like that was always your feeling.

In fact your real feeling is revealed in " I've lived here for more than 12 years and I have never seen this degree of intimacy between two guys in all that time - qualified by at this time of day and in this kind of public space."

I maintain you would have never started this post had it been a man and a woman and you can deny it all you want but your own words reveal what bothered you!!!

[lurker]

I'm surprised in this context that no-one has mentioned the current controversy in Thailand about actor Jirayu "James" Tangsrisuk's kissing celebrity toddler Nong Wan Mai on the mouth, a picture of which which appears on the cover of Sudsapda magazine. A view being forcibly expressed in online Thai forums is that the pictures - others are inside the magazine - go too far (and I love this phrase) "even for foreigners with more relaxed cultural standards". It seems to me that the posters here so far fall into two camps (1) PDAs don't conform to Thai cultural norms (2) "This is the way I believe Thailand ought to be therefore that's the way Thailand is". I found firecat69's arguments especially unconvincing in that regard, full of non sequitors. I discussed this with my Thai boyfriend who has lived in Australia for decades. He's strongly opposed to public PDAs in Thailand and asserts most Thais would still find them offensive.

Personally, I'm more worried about potless teenage guys who get their potless teenage girlfriends pregnant. Out of sight, yes, but not out of mind.

Whats your problem there just breeding the next generation of boys for us to fuck.

[firecat69]

"This is the way I believe Thailand ought to be therefore that's the way Thailand is". I found firecat69's arguments especially unconvincing in that regard, full of non sequitors. I discussed this with my Thai boyfriend who has lived in Australia for decades. He's strongly opposed to public PDAs in Thailand and asserts most Thais would still find them offensive.

First of all that is not my argument at all. I believe the encounter mentioned is no Big Deal in a city of 12 million where yes social norms are changing and where more and more visitors come every year. If you want tourist money then you cannot expect them all to know and respect social norms and yes I believe the OP never would have mentioned this encounter if it had been a man and a woman. Do I think some people may have been offended. Of course but too bad lots of people are offended all over the world by 2 males kissing but thankfully that is changing as things are changing in Thailand.

Since your BF has lived for decades in Australia , I see no reason to consider his opinion any better then many here who spend many months every year in Thailand.

Opinions are like A--Ho-es. We all have them.

[lurker]

I believe the encounter mentioned is no Big Deal in a city of 12 million where yes social norms are changing and where more and more visitors come every year.

That is precisely my opinion of your ramblings. You have a view of how Thailand should be rather than how it is, and then assert that's the way it is. Whether it's a homosexual or a heterosexual PDA is irrelevant. I thought your argument that for most Thais it's not what you know but who you know in order to get ahead meant that they "must" therefore understand and embrace the sex industry and not be shocked by naked flesh fairly typical of the sexpat mentality.

[GreenEggs]

Please Firecat, do not offend Fountainhall. He has very delicate sensibilities. We want to keep her here on this forum and he is prone to tantrums.

Mods, please close this thread before it goes to far.

[Up2U]

Oh the irony of this thread. "The Kiss" police contingent really needs to ride a horse with shorter legs. If a Thai law was broken (and I am sure it wasn't) it is not our place to be the enforcer even with stares of disdain. This couple knows they are not in Issan or Teheran, and certainly not in the closet. Maybe they are on their honeymoon, perhaps they offed a boy the night before, a trip to the Babylon, a massage with a happy ending? who knows and who cares is my view. For those that say it is not the same,remember, this happened at noon time at the train station, my reply is this. Simply walk down those same steps at Saladaeng and witness the the handicapped and children begging, those gay massage boys in Issan dress soliciting for themselves and their employer, take 5 more steps and have porn shoved in your face. Redirect your moral outrage or look in the mirror people; I have a Thai bf 30 years my junior, I came to Thailand for years for sex which btw is illegal here, I have bought pirated software and so on. I don't want to be judged, and I don't judge others.

[Smiles]

" ... I have a Thai bf 30 years my junior, I came to Thailand for years for sex which btw is illegal here, I have bought pirated software and so on. I don't want to be judged ... "

Damn ... I think I should call the Police. :-o

[firecat69]

I believe the encounter mentioned is no Big Deal in a city of 12 million where yes social norms are changing and where more and more visitors come every year.

That is precisely my opinion of your ramblings. You have a view of how Thailand should be rather than how it is, and then assert that's the way it is. Whether it's a homosexual or a heterosexual PDA is irrelevant. I thought your argument that for most Thais it's not what you know but who you know in order to get ahead meant that they "must" therefore understand and embrace the sex industry and not be shocked by naked flesh fairly typical of the sexpat mentality.

Evidently you are incapable of reading or comprehending !. I made it quite plain that getting ahead even with a University Degree had nothing to do with ability but with family connections and Front Desk at Hotel or Bank Teller was it in many instances. Their was no mention of Sex which evidently is constantly in your small brain and has nothing to do with the discussion except as how accepting Thais are to the Sex Industry and therefore probably should not have much of a problem with a PDA of foreigners.

Please inform us how much time you have spent in Thailand in the last 5 years. I am guessing very little and because you supposedly have a Thai BF who has not lived in Thailand for decades you are an expert. i think not!!1