New bar opened in old Topman,the Scotland Discussion

[quote=scottish-guy]It's jaw-dropping that someone who (presumably) originates from Australia - a former colony and Dominion of the UK which transformed itself into a very successful Independent sovereign state - makes an attack on the principle of self-determination.

It's the UK state we want rid of.

All these 19th century mentalities still wittering on about the nation state. All of that should have been killed off by the First World War whose centenary we "celebrate" this year. But we still have pathetic creatures ranting about their little piece of turf and its importance. No better than Suthep and Thaksin.

[/quote:2ksj4n9q]An interesting use of "the end justifies the means" argument.