I just asked two men at Screwboys and they say more like 10 offs a month, though obviously it varies low to high season. Anyone who has been a customer there has seen 30 plus men on stage and 6 or so customers only at times. I think we should be generous with drink tips at that bar.
Half are gay (for pay)?
asking two guys isn't good statistics?
It is if you use Bayes' theorem. In very simple terms this allows you to infer from a very small set of data, but as more data becomes available you modify your inference as necessary. I'd think that a sample size of two would provide a quite low level of confidence however
Thank you for Bayes theorem. This thread gives us a sample size of three now. My intensive and selfless research of offs at Screwboys adds to my confidence that average monthly offs are lower than 18 per young man. But I will drag myself there next week to improve our data set.
christianpfc (July 4th, 2018), Smiles (June 25th, 2018)
You probably need to apply a seasonal factor as well. If you ask the boys for the period of say mid-December to mid-January (the true "high season") you'll likely find a higher percentage with an "off" most days. That is because the annual visitor tends to arrive, pick a boy and keep him for the duration of his holiday, and then fly home. That's probably about 18 - 20 "offs" in a 4-week period, since the punter usually pays the bar by the day
Very very few annual visitors keep one boy for the duration of their stay. The huge majority are butterflies and have a different not every day. The number of offs a boy can expect is in direct proportion to how attractive he is and how well he performs. Go into Nice Boys every evening for 10/12 consecutive days and it's the same boys offed day after day. For some of them an 18 off month would be down on their average.
paborn (June 25th, 2018)
I tend to think that too. When I am in a gogo bar I only see 1, 2 boys I would off. Not because the others are all unattractive, but when I pay for sex I settle only for the best of the best. I mean why pay 1000/1500 baht for a good looking boy, when you can get your dream boy for the same prize, if not in that bar, then in another?
Since I also think my taste in boys is not that different from those of other farangs who are into twinks, I sometimes think many boys don't get any offs at all and only fullfill the role of filler. Else the stage looks so empty. But what does this do with such a boy's selfesteem? I hope they don't think they aren't attractive. Many are attractive to me, it is just that in a "gay for pay" environment it is not economically rational to pay 1000/1500 if you can get something slightly better for the same price. I hope these boys who are never offed realize that. They are far from unattractive, it's just that they are below dream/angel level
Asia Traveler (June 25th, 2018)
maybe take a few of them to a supermarket meat department late one day so they can see it is normal that all the best cuts are snapped up quickly and the scrag-ends are always left on the shelf. I am sure this will do wonders for their self-esteem - or least help them understand how their customers view them.
bkkguy
paborn (June 25th, 2018)
I think there's another way of looking at things. Take Nice Boys. Perhaps boy X is more attractive than boy Y but if I've had boy X, perhaps twice then I'm going to off boy Y because I haven't had him.
AsDaRa (June 25th, 2018), christianpfc (July 4th, 2018)