in Silom area ? Do they keep their word on what they are willing to do ? I am planning to take them to a short time hotel near by rather than to my own hotel room, is that a good idea to do ? Lastly, do they provided condom or I must provided my own ? Thanks
Originally Posted by Carrera
They will always agree to what you want when they are in the bar. You are slightly better off if you filter your request through the mamasan, but in any event if your request is truly weird there's a good chance that it will not happen.
Tell the mamasan or waiter what you want and he'll recommend someone.
If you have a hotel room in the area (I think you decided on Tarntawan ???) why go for a short-time room? If you take a boy off from one of the bars and he leaves his ID with the guard, you haven't got much to worry about.
Obviously this is a new experience for you and I can understand your concerns, BUT if you aren't a certified whacko and you off a boy from one of the bars and take him back to your hotel room (and exercise a little caution about money/cameras/computers left about) you really have nothing to worry about.
Always a good idea to be prepared.
Always have your own supplies and you won't be disappointed.
There are even boogyman stories of saboutaged condoms by vindictive
Thai guys intent on spreading diseases, but it sounds like paranoia to me.
Every boy is different and every time is different. Mamasans are okay if
they know you and you tip them or buy them drinks and they know you
are a regular.
If they don't know you and you are a tightwad, they might
try to push a boy on you whom they will take a percentage cut from..
Farangs lie, everybody lies, so you take your chances and usually
things work out but your odds increase with experience and there is
only one way to learn the ropes.. Low expectations are wise at first as
they will probably be met. Let us know how it works out. :cat:
I agree with cat and x. I've only used a short time room if it was upstairs and I was talked
into a quickie. I like "long time" - and spending some time after the bar to go out to
a dance club or karaoke or something, and maybe do something fun the next day.
Always have your own condoms. Always insist on using them.
I know you've probably read on the forums that the mamasans are famous for telling
you what you want to hear, and it's pretty much true. In fact one time I asked the
mamasan how old a boy was and she said without hesitating, "him 17." when I replied
I didn't want to off him then she changed her story. "Oh, solly, him 19." I checked his
ID and he really was 19. When I asked why shy lied, she smiled and said "I thought you
ask because you want young."
Carrera,
Do yourself a favor and please do not believe all the dribble you read on these boards. People who are unhappy and negative will always claim it's everyone else that is crazy, not themselves.
Not every Farang lies. :cat:
Not every bar boy lies. :cat:
What you are about to read has been posted many times before (in one way or another) and in spite of being a broken record I will share some things I agree with.
Remember, every bar-boy wants to make money and every Farang who takes off a boy wants some type of service. Quite simple actually.
I took the time to review your past posts and nearly all are concerned about how much to tip the boys. It is an overwhelming problem when you are new to the scene, I understand. It was overwhelming for me as well when I first moved here.
As politically uncorrect (as some goodie too shoes posters would have you believe) it is OK to ask the boy how much he wants for (whatever you want) or to offer X amount for his service and ask if that is OK with him prior to leaving the bar or wherever you meet him.
Doing this serves at least two purposes.
1. It establishes that you are sincere about wanting his services.
2. It prevents (in most cases) any hassle about payment when the deed is completed.
3. It also allows you to see his reaction to an offer. Is he polite when he declines or does he raise his voice refusing the offer and demanding more money. The latter would (for me) show a tad bit of aggressiveness and or other underlying problems which I avoid if I spot it in time.
I personally ALWAYS discuss the monetary value with the boys prior to the deed. It seems to relax the boys and it also relaxes me. Remember too, the more you relax and not sweat the small stuff the more fun you both will have. Fun and letting your hair down is what you are here for right?
The proper tip? There really isn't a proper tip. If you ever had the chance to see the home where the boy was born and where his family lives and the conditions they live in, we all would double what we normally pay.
But reality is that the going so called tip varies from a lowest around 500 baht to the high end of around 2,000 baht. This is talking about Short time. Long time affairs are a different tea kettle all together.
It also depends on where you are (Chiang Mai / Bkk / Pattaya or the Islands) the boy, you and all sorts of different factors, but as a general rule, the prices listed above are fairly realistic in my opinion and unless you are into playing with foreign objects / leather activities / toilet activities etc. in which case the prices will be somewhat higher....or at least that is what I have read. :study:
Bringing your new found friend to your room and not having secured expensive items like lap-tops and cameras and cash is like pinning a 'KICK ME PLEASE SIGN" on your back. You will get kicked and you will never understand why or how such a nice boy could do that to you. Secure all valuable items.
I personally do not use hotel rooms unless I am out of town and always bring them to my home. It is so much more comfortable. But I NEVER and I mean NEVER let them out of my sight. We shower together, play together, eat snacks food together and it keeps him honest and keeps me relaxed....
What more can you ask for than having a fun time with a new found friend?
I hope you have a fun time and not worry about the small stuff. Maybe we can have a COCK-TAIL together. You will be able to identify me. I will be the guy walking around with a Cuban cigar in my pocket.....shirt pocket that is. :cheers:
Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana
From my limited experiences Thai bar boys do what they promise.
hmmmm your planning to take them to a short time hotel even though you have your own hotel room ? and you want to know if they supply condoms ?
you are obviously on holiday with your wife and going out after she retires to bed,,the reason you havn't got your own condoms is because you dont want to get caught by your wife...lol
its ok carrera we wont tell but if i can suss you out i'm sure your wife will.. make sure you shower after :glasses2: :glasses10:
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Generally agree with the Cat . Let us know how it works out or IN!
If the boy has his own condoms or they are supplied by the short time room, they are likely to be too small or inferior quality.
Be sure be safe bring your own condoms to Thailand
Is it you are embarassed taking a boy back to your hotel first time. Forget it, they are used to rent boys and girls coming and going all night, every night. They might even think you a little strange going to bed by yourself
Wombat : an Australian marsupial that eats,roots and leaves
Never believe a word that any mamasan says to you, and you'll be on the right track.
Do the barboys keep their promises? More likely yes than no, but never guaranteed.
..........and that's the way it is.
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