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  1. #11
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    Not sure

    Did Brad not say he never met him
    Maybe we can get back to positive things we like instead of all the fighting

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    I have never met JB, I have never done any business with him. I would want to do neither.

    It would be nice if anyone bleating about "their" board, including JB, had ever actually put their hand in their pocket and contributed towards it's running costs!

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    Re: Not sure

    Quote Originally Posted by skeet45
    Did Brad not say he never met him
    Maybe we can get back to positive things we like instead of all the fighting
    he-he :cheers: he-he :cheers:

    I say same thing. This board like mad dogs fighting over old bone. I come only to find pretty money boy for sex. Very happy!
    Mad dogs attacking for saying happy things too. :cheers:

    he-he :cheers: he-he

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    it does become too much at times..posting these boards. Often it depends how you feel at the time.

    The people I know who have met JB say he's a pretty decent chap and none has ever complained about his business practices. Promoting his own business is hardly a crime on here..everyone's talking about different bars and so-all business. In some ways you are either promoting or knocking someone else hard work .

    Sounds like it's probably not good for your health anyway JB so relax and enjoy the UK with the b/f.:salute:
    I'm only a light drinker. When it's daylight I drink.

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    Just to wish you both all the best, as a viewer rather than a poster thank you John for the tips/advice it was helpful to me when I first came to Thailand.
    So good luck in Blighty

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    I don't often agree with brad the impala, but it is obvious to me that JB promoted himself and was on an ego trip of sorts.
    We all knew about his businesses, his presidency, and he opened up about his personal life and now his sorrows..

    I respect JB for his decision to retire his name and frankly it was long overdue. I feel empathy for JB as he has
    been dealt a raw deal and has far more serious matters to contend with than anonymous posters with agendas and
    those who feel a righteous indignation or are on a crusade..

    I hope others will let JB retire his handle from this forum with respect and not kick him while he is down..
    It is truly a waste of time to carry on bitterly and it is a relief to let it all go and move on but some won't be
    satisfied and will feel the need to continue attacking.. :cat:

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    You made it personal

    Quote Originally Posted by John Botting
    Now I find new posters here again attacking me. I am sure they are old names, relaunched to continue the abuse.
    Presumably this does not refer to me - I am hardly "new" as I joined this forum in 2004 and have never posted under any other name.

    Quote Originally Posted by John Botting
    I have learned that it is dangerous to post on these forums using your own name.
    Presumably why Rule 3 of the Posting Rules says "(3)IDENTIFYING MEMBERS BY THEIR REAL NAMES, OR BY POSTING THEIR ADDRESSES, PHONE NUMBERS, E-MAIL ADDRESSES (etc etc.) IS NOT ALLOWED."

    You made the choice, for whatever reason; since you assumed the right to attack others here (by name when you knew it, despite the rules) with no scruples and less evidence, posting under your own name does not and should not give you any extra protection - particularly when those criticisms I have made of you were all supported by your own previous posts.

    99% of this board post under a pseudonym; those who do not choose to do so for their own reasons (commercial, large egos, small imaginations, to show they are their father's son, etc). For anyone to say that it is "cowardly" to remain anonymous or "courageous" to post under your own name, irrespective of whether they know the individuals concerned or not, is completely irrational unless all those reading posts know all those making posts; if that is not the case (and it certainly is not here) then posts have to be judged on their own merits, nothing more, making for a reasonably level playing field as posts can be judged on whether they are substantiated or not rather than any other criteria.

    Quote Originally Posted by John Botting
    Unfortunately this board has attracted too many trolls and too many spiteful nasty individuals with bitter agenda's of late.
    If one is constantly going to be bitter, spiteful and nasty to others (farangs as individuals and Thais in general) it is hardly "unfortunate" when the same thing happens to you, to which you now cry "foul".

    My agenda concerning you personally has always been very clear and it is limited to you alone, so it ends here. I have also made my personal reasons clear, following our one meeting some two years ago, when I told you to your face that you would regret saying what you did, before you disappeared; that post was deleted and without approval from ES I will not repeat it, however I will PM a copy to anyone who wants to know my personal motivation in this matter.

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    Re: Its got too personal

    Quote Originally Posted by John Botting
    So, that is it for me. I am out of here. Goodbye, ta ra, and the best of luck to those of you who actually post here useful and sensible comments and advise.
    I wish you well with your future and your health, JB. Hope everything goes well for you and yours.

    I do not understand the need for a "swan song." Almost a continuation by some posters of the announcement to the world that their important presence will no longer grace this stage. JB, while you've certainly offerred some very good information and advice over time, there too has been just a wee bit of over-promotion and, quite frankly, a tinge of the "I'm better/smarter than you" tone. That, of course, has attracted the mentally afflicted and the trolls. In short, while it's no big deal to me, there's the old adage of "you reap what you sow" and, while it would have been nice if we had some
    consistent and reasonable moderation here (which would have ended the back and forth and the various petty feuds that some posters just can't seem to let drop), it's difficult for me to feel very sympathetic to the complaint that it's gotten just a bit too personal here for you.

    Regardless, in the scheme of life, there are much more important things - your health, your future, your friends, etc. Chok dee, JB.

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    Good luck to you, and I hope you and your friend will have a good life together where you go. I think it was very interesting to read about your feelings about Thailand and how you feel things have changed. I don't agree with those who interpreted it as bitterness. Some say you have promoted your self on this board. May be you have but that has been fine with me as a reader, it is interesting to know what other gays are doing in Thailand. It would be interesting to follow how you and your boyfriend will manage to live together in farangland. May be it would be an idea to make a blog, some thing like Silom Farang - gayboythailand.

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    Re: You made it personal

    Quote Originally Posted by Gone Fishing
    You made the choice, for whatever reason; since you assumed the right to attack others here (by name when you knew it, despite the rules) with no scruples and less evidence, posting under your own name does not and should not give you any extra protection
    I suspect Somporn would note some irony in JB's current position.

    In respect of JB's medical problems, I'll leave it at that and wish him the best on that score.

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