POT KETTLE BLACKOriginally Posted by Dodger
You may be overlooking something: Not all foreigners use their youth like disposable paper plates. Only those who lack moral fiber.
POT KETTLE BLACK
You may be overlooking something: Not all foreigners use their youth like disposable paper plates. Only those who lack moral fiber.
Last edited by Jellybean; March 25th, 2024 at 18:49. Reason: Quotes fixed
And that is typical latintopxxx nonsense! Describing young men and women as disposable plates because they work in the porn industry is disgraceful! We know latintopxxx's methods, his way with words and that he fucks around all and sundry - guys that is. Very few other posters are like him, fortunately, and most do not resort to such dreadful descriptions.
The sex industry in Thailand is huge but expats and foreigners see only a small fraction of it. A recent report states that it is worth USD6 billion annually (and that's probably an underestimate). It involves young ladies, young men and even, behind closed doors, underage youths of both sexes. It has little to do now with paddy fields. It involves many sectors of soceity and is about cash, plain and simple.
His basic premise is also nonsense. Given his travels no doubt he has hit on Japan a few times. Japan's sex and porn industry is estimated to be worth vastly more than Thailand's - over USD70 billion +. Porn movie sales alone contribute around 1% of the country's GDP. Much of the total revolves around clubs for older men to meet very young ladies, many of whom are schoolgirls out for extra cash and gifts, but more than a few are for older ladies to meet younger male "escorts", also out for cash. Many places do not accept foreigners, but increasingly a great many more do. Boy houses where large numbers of 18 year olds look closer to 14 can easily be found on the internet and are in every city. Teenage prostitution is rife.
The Japanese from the senior levels of government down to the lowly farmer know precisely what is going on, and virtually all tolerate it. Culturally sex and older men taking young boys under their wings are deeply ingrained in Japanese social history.
No society? Nonsense!
..no matter how western educated or how long they have lived in liberal spots like LA or San Fran...the moment they land back in Thailand their attitude becomes very much local...they know the only thing standing between them and the masses is their money and their money is linked to social relationships with other wealthy clans...the lower classes are there to be used..not to be liked or looked after...lookm what happened after a politician jumped on that badwagon...got banned & jailed...lets not mention the name..so plse stop pretending its a kond accepting all embfracing society..as long as you got cash you can do what you like ...and if you got connections its even easier..
dodger you need to get a grip on reality...lots of foreigners...i would say in the hundreds if not thousands every day enjoy the temporary company of local males before moving onto the next...i know i do when Im there...usually at least 2 a day...I'd say the number of foreigners residing in Thailand with stable local male companions is far outnumbered by the number of tourists who rent by the hour...and as for good karma..what nonsense..if if you are a salt of the earth type person who treats everyone around you kindly the moment the cash dries up you will be expelled from your rental home and the so called loyal love of your life will move onto greener pastured.....dont be fooled by all the face saving smiles the locals give you....and i reiterate what i know and that is the Thai upper classes regard the poor/peasants as nothing more than poorly paid labour that needs to be kept in their place...and that is why they dont care that anyone can fly in and use their youth like disposable single use paper plates
mr giggles (March 25th, 2024)
No thank you. Accepting it is challenge enough.
No argument there. See it all the time.
I've watched some pretty generous and jai dee farang get dragged threw the mud by their "Thai Love"...drained of every dollar they had in their account...and then left discarded (like you previously suggested) like a used paper plate. I've also watched some pretty nasty farang treating the working boys like nothing more than discardable sex objects too. I guess that door swings both ways.
Thais aren't perfect people by a long stretch and when you're submersed in the active sex scene interacting with nothing but working boys the odds of connecting with someone disingenuous are pretty high. I think I heard someone once refer to this as "reality".
I've always believed that answers to these complex dilemmas in life are always somewhere in the "Center". On one side you have farang punters who throw their pocketbooks at the working boys...shower them with expensive gifts...never say no to a request for more money...and take the bait hook-line-and sinker. The term "Walking ATM" was invented for guys like this. Then, on the other end of the spectrum, you have punters who continually abuse the working boys...emotionally, and sometimes physically as well.
I've always felt it best to just treat them the same way I want to be treated...try to use some common sense when it comes to judging their character...draw my line-in-the-sand when it comes to charitable contributions...and take it from there. The middle road. Not an easy touch - and not Darth Vader either.
..and yes dodger i have travelled quite a bit and had the opportunity to visit dozens of towns and cities and nowhere is the open availability of male companions as open and commercial as in Thailand...there are hooker bars in countries where there is lots of free lancer talent available but its not as blatant or as open...
A fascinating discussion, hope it continues and does not get so heated that it degrades into a battle of personal insults.
In comparison, a similar poverty based class structure exist in Philippines, Laos, cambodia, Colombia, (and Brazil, dominican republic....& others) without the open gay prostitution business structure. is this a legacy of american Korea/vietnam era R&R bases? I have not seen this open (although illegal) gay prostitution system as thailand elsewhere....
In PH subic bay and Angeles City have the remains of their (hetero) prostitution businesses, but not a gay one. Colombian has a legal very active visible hetero prostitution system,..... the gay one is there but submerged, not visible.
the other countries I have no experience in. (well I was in the DR long ago).
https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts-g...quia/medellin/
Pretty much, plus simply tourism and religion as well. Places like Laos and Cambodia are landlocked, hence lower tourism overall, whereas Thailand has beautiful beaches and islands all over.
Philippines has a thriving sex worker scene, but is also a Catholic country hence government and society at large are less accepting of sex workers. Whereas Thailand is Buddhist hence overall more tolerant of, well.. everything, because that's just part of being Buddhist.
Then like you said, Pattaya was the R&R place for US soldiers during Vietnam. Thailand simply got addicted to all that foreign money and both, government and society at large were all too happy to alter their views and acceptance of sex workers / tourism in exchange for keeping that cash flowing, houses bing built, etc.
Dodger (March 25th, 2024), jvt22222 (March 25th, 2024), mr giggles (March 25th, 2024)
I flunked that but he was worth it
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