Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth Has Passed Away

[Moses]

war with iceland and indonesia?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars militarized conflicts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indone..._confrontation also known as 3-years long Borneo confrontation

[bkkguy]

this topic has absolutely nothing to do with Gay Thailand

Gay: I mean really what gay doesn't love a queen?

Thailand: in the longest reigning monarch stakes who did she manage to out-reign to get second place behind Louis XIV?

who votes to move it back to the original forum?

[Dragonman]

While I'm sure in fact what any monarchy is anachronism and should have no place in modern world, because it is nonsense what person may has right to rule country and/or be head of state just because he/she has specific family name, .....

So what is your view of hereditary Communist dynasties such as that of North Korea's Kim and Cuba's Castro families? Or of political dynasties in the Soviet Union/Russia Federation? Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o.../_Soviet_Union) has an interesting list of the latter political dynasties.

[cdnmatt]

Of course, you can expect Moses to inject politics and imply Russia is better during this time.

[Moses]

Of course, you can expect Moses to inject politics and imply Russia is better during this time.

Matt, you bringing here false claims as usual: do you see any words about Russia in my posts in this topic? Please point on any...

[Moses]

Dragonman, do you see how strong is offended Matt by your attempts to bring Russia into thread about end of British queen???

[francois]

I think the thoughtful statements about the Queen are quite appropriate - but this topic has absolutely nothing to do with Gay Thailand and is better suited for the "Everything Else" forum.

Absolument!

[latintopxxx]

quiet...silence...u frog munching surrender monkey...u with the tank with 6 reverse gears and only one slow forward gear....u that train for war by learning " I surrender" in 6 languages... u would be speaking German if it wasmt for that Queen....silence I say...

[Dragonman]

Dragonman, do you see how strong is offended Matt by your attempts to bring Russia into thread about end of British queen???

Moses, my reading of Matt's response does not indicate to me that he was offended by my posting about your views that "any monarchy is anachronism and should have no place in modern world, because it is nonsense what person may has right to rule country and/or be head of state just because he/she has specific family name," given that what I posted about North Korea and Cuba being de facto hereditary monarchies, and that there are families in the Russian Federation (and former Soviet Union) that, over several generations, seem the believe that they have the right to be involved in ruling it is correct. The Kadyrovs in Chechnya, a republic within Russia, are an example of this hereditary principles.

I asked the question of you because I was, and am, genuinely interested in your view of hereditary politicians in the modern world, given that there are so many examples of them. I originally included a longer list of such political dynasties around the world, e.g., the Trudeaus in Canada, the families that have provided more than one US president (e.g., the Bushes and Roosevelts); the Aquinos, Marcoses, Macapagals, etc., in The Philippines; the Lees in Singapore; the Sukarnos in Indonesia; the Bhuttos in Pakistan; the Nehrus in India; those in numerous African countries (e.g., Congo-Brazzaville, Gabon, Equatorial Guinea, Chad, Cameroon, etc.), and the convoluted family relationships among Japanese politicians where sons are traded back between political families, some of whom are related to the Imperial Family. The late Shinzo Abe was the grandson of former PM Nobusuke Kishi (born Nobusuke Satō), and his brother is Nobuo Kishi, who currently holds Nobusuke Kishi's former seat. Former PM Taro Aso is the brother of Princess Tomohito of Mikasa. There are other examples. A majority of members of the Japanese Diet are are least second-generation politicians. Prior to the ending of martial law, Taiwan had a father-and-son presidential succession, too.

I deleted that information as the posting was becoming too long, though.

Moreover, the hereditary system seems to be a characteristic of some of the governments in Central Asian countries that used to be constituent republics of the former Soviet Union. For example, President Gurbanguly Berdymuchammedow of Turkmenistan made his eldest son Serdar Berdymuchammedow deputy foreign minister before stepping down - and then the son won the presidency in the resulting election that was seen as neither free nor fair. Ilham Aliyev, president of Azerbaijan, followed his father Heydar Aliyev in office. It seems to be widely expected that Emomali Rahmon, President of Tajikistan, will be succeeded by his eldest son Rustam.

It seems to me that hereditary heads of state and members of whatever a country's parliament is called are a widespread phenomenon, one not confined to the so-called western world.

[cdnmatt]

It's simply because Moses has made his views very clear in other threads, that's all. Nevermind.