Where to go Bangkok / Pattaya 1st time ?

[maump]

Nice, so basically Bar or GoGo Bar both have boys you can ask to your room for off fees ? noted thanks (Dont want to approach staff at a bar and finding out they dont do it and feeling akward. Thank you)

So at Jomtien any bar recommendations or mostly Twinks there in general ?

I haven't been to Jomtien in 5 years,. but then, you walk down the street, lots of boys at the bars (there is often seating in the street) they will say hi and try to invite you in for a drink. If you see a boy or a bar with mostly your type go in and take a seat, any boy will be happy to sit with you if you buy him a drink (he gets a cut). Ask a server (they didn't have a "mamason" when I was there), he will tell you details about the boys and round one up for you. you can "talk". If you like him, take him back. if not a small tip and try another.

When I was there, there was no off fee for beer bar boys. I thought they were all "free lance" work for tips and a cut of the drinks. Maybe that has changed?

Check out some of the Pictures/ You Tube videos to see what it is like.

Can any of the members point him at a how to?

[davidmelba]

So at Jomtien any bar recomendations or mostly Twinks there in general ?[/QUOTE]

I was there in March. It is really easy, walk along the street and keep your eyes moving. You will spot one standing or sitting besides the business. If you like him, smile say hi and do what cones naturally. There is really nothing complicated about it. Relax

[francois]

All bars have off fees.

[maump]

All bars have off fees.

they didn't bill me in slow season 2016. The men were freelance as far as I knew. things change or I am losing my mind?

[davidmelba]

They have several hotels right inside the complex.. None of them are 5 star but not bad

[Oliver2]

Plenty of accommodation in the Complex. A newbie would benefit from staying in a gay hotel, or at least one where the gay clientele is visible.

[maump]

Plenty of accommodation in the Complex. A newbie would benefit from staying in a gay hotel, or at least one where the gay clientele is visible.

I stayed at the Agate in the complex. Booked thru Agoda. Very nice, no problem with boys, decent breakfast (2016)

[Oliver2]

I stayed at the Agate in the complex. Booked thru Agoda. Very nice, no problem with boys, decent breakfast (2016)

Yes, The Agate is excellent. But don't book through Agoda; email the hotel and you will get a vastly better price. I've just booked a November visit at 1200 pn...no breakfasts yet, though. My previous visit, pre-Covid, cost 2000bht.

[gerefan2]

Yes, The Agate is excellent. But don't book through Agoda; email the hotel and you will get a vastly better price. I've just booked a November visit at 1200 pn...no breakfasts yet, though. My previous visit, pre-Covid, cost 2000bht.

I have just booked to stay one month at Agate next month and the price is 1000 Baht per night. Booked direct by email.

[maump]

I have just booked to stay one month at Agate next month and the price is 1000 Baht per night. Booked direct by email.

great to know. in 2016, I think it was 1200 with breakfast for a really nice room. exchange rate was 37b/usd at the time...

on another visit I stayed at Venue. Pretty good, not quite as nice as Agate. they were careful about IDs at Venue, not at agate.