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    Re: The Brink of War?

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    Do you still expect what Russian army will storm cities (as US army does - carpet bombing then clearing bodies)? Well just watch what is going on already at the East of Ukraine: cities falling one by one. After nationalists ran via humanitarian corridors cities just change flags on the roofs of city councils.

    First, Russia is the one using cluster bombs, not the US. Second, if you haven't realized yet, it's impossible for Russia to win this war. You can't liberate people who don't want to be liberated.

    Everyone expects Russia to be able to take Ukraine. Well, actually we all expected Russia to take Ukraine in about 72 hours, but the Russian military has proven itself to be such a complete cluster fuck, the jury is still out on whether or not you can even take Ukraine. And Putin actually has the nerve to boast about how powerful the Russian military is as if it can go toe to toe with NATO, or something? WTF?

    Even if and when Russia does take Ukraine, Russian soldiers will have to be stationed there for years to come. And those soldiers will have to worry about getting shot or having a molotov thrown on them everytime they go outside or turn a corner. This will continue until Russia finally and inevitably leaves. Russia simply can not win this war. It's impossible.

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    Russia simply can not win this war. It's impossible.
    I don't think Putin see's any way of winning either - he's just looking for the best way to lose.

    I just watched Sergey Navrov's live press conference in Turkey. Every answer he gave to reporters was either based on twisting facts, totally irrational rationalizations, minimizing when it suited him best, defocusing from the actual questions being asked, flat-out lying, or using the "fake news" card when all else failed. It was like watching Trump again.

    I'd hate to have Sergey's job right now, but, like Putin, this is way over his head.

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    And UAE is increasing oil supply, dropping the price of crude.

    Too bad, I was actually in favor of high oil prices. Let's get off fossil fuels once and for all, kind of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdnmatt View Post
    First, Russia is the one using cluster bombs, not the US. Second, if you haven't realized yet, it's impossible for Russia to win this war. You can't liberate people who don't want to be liberated.

    Everyone expects Russia to be able to take Ukraine. Well, actually we all expected Russia to take Ukraine in about 72 hours, but the Russian military has proven itself to be such a complete cluster fuck, the jury is still out on whether or not you can even take Ukraine. And Putin actually has the nerve to boast about how powerful the Russian military is as if it can go toe to toe with NATO, or something? WTF?
    Again: Russia has no intention "to take Ukraine". It is in your dreams. Like "in 72 hours" is Pentagon's habits: "lets wipe city by bombing, then declare victory".

    In Ukraine is going military operation. Heads of nationalists are dropping on the ground one by one - Chechens hunting them successfully. There is no real coordination btw Ukrainian military parts since all Ukrainian army's control centers are demolished already. That why south-east group of Ukrainian army is almost isolated already in Kharkiv-Donetsk-Dnepr triangle and nobody will came to save them - there are no anymore airports or roads what aren't under Russian control, as well Ukrainian army has no more reserves of the fuel or ammo in this region.

    Google Debaltsevo 2014 operation. Destiny of Ukrainian Nazi battalions in this triangle will be the same, while soldiers of regular Ukrainian army will be allowed to leave without weapon.

    Quote Originally Posted by cdnmatt View Post
    Even if and when Russia does take Ukraine, Russian soldiers will have to be stationed there for years to come. And those soldiers will have to worry about getting shot or having a molotov thrown on them everytime they go outside or turn a corner. This will continue until Russia finally and inevitably leaves. Russia simply can not win this war. It's impossible.
    Oh, dear. Take a look at Crimea. Do you see there any resistance? "Molotovs"? Any patrols of "worrying solders"? The same will be in all parts of Ukraine what Russia will accept to join in. Just use street views in Google or Yandex for to watch current situation in Crimea and scale it. Ukrainian Russians are at least 30% of population in each Ukrainian region besides Western part located near the border with Hungary, Slovakia and Poland. But there nationalists will be Polish, Slovakian and Hungarian problems.


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    Re: The Brink of War?

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    Again: Russia has no intention "to take Ukraine". It is in your dreams.
    WTF? Russia sent in 190,000 soldiers and have bombed nearly every city in Ukraine.






    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Google Debaltsevo 2014 operation. Destiny of Ukrainian Nazi battalions in this triangle will be the same, while soldiers of regular Ukrainian army will be allowed to leave without weapon.
    You seem to be under the impression that anyone gives a shit about what Russia says and what rules they try to impose.




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    Oh, dear. Take a look at Crimea. Do you see there any resistance? "Molotovs"?
    Yes, you took Crimea with ease. That's quite obviously not the case with the rest of the country. Have you not seen the war that's been playing out over the past couple weeks?

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    Just use street views in Google or Yandex
    That'd be a cool idea if I wasn't blind.

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    Yes, you took Crimea with ease. That's quite obviously not the case with the rest of the country.
    And you still can't read? There is no Afghanistan in Ukraine. Large population of Russians is living there. Russian is native language for 67% of Ukrainian citizens. That why there are no city fights: Russian army don't want to induct anti-Russian mode within population and to compile with Western propaganda. Cities are circled. Rest will be done by citizens with time: nationalists will run out.
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    You do know that there's a chance this will get so bloody and the loss of life will become so severe that NATO may actually step in, right? The Russian military already looks like a complete shitshow on the world stage, so just imagine if NATO forces actually join the fight.

    Then you'll have a bunch of Texan cowboys who think they're Tom Cruise to deal with. You'll be fucked.

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    Re: The Brink of War?

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    And you still can't read? There is no Afghanistan in Ukraine. Large population of Russians is living there. Russian is native language for 67% of Ukrainian citizens. That why there are no city fights: Russian army don't want to induct anti-Russian mode within population and to compile with Western propaganda. Cities are circled. Rest will be done by citizens with time: nationalists will run out.
    How many people have to die before you get it through your thick skull that Ukrainians don't want you there? They have their own country, language and culture. They don't want to be ruled by Putin, and I think they've made that pretty clear.

    Kiev was on the map before Moscow was, so piss off with this "they're part of Russia" thing.

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    Re: The Brink of War?

    Quote Originally Posted by cdnmatt View Post
    How many people have to die before you get it through your thick skull that Ukrainians don't want you there? They have their own country, language and culture. They don't want to be ruled by Putin, and I think they've made that pretty clear.
    Do you have relatives in Ukraine? Do they tell yo what they want? No? Well...
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