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    Re: The Brink of War?

    Quote Originally Posted by cdnmatt View Post
    Pretty sure this isn't what Putin had in mind when he made the decision to invade.
    Yeah, That why exactly U.S. and allies quietly prepare for a Ukrainian government-in-exile. Right?
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ne-insurgency/
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    Well. Looks like Alzheimer wins. Is Kamala smart enough?

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    Well. Looks like Alzheimer wins. Is Kamala smart enough?

    Surely that question doesn’t need to be asked

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    Re: The Brink of War?

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    Well, in 2012 trade btw RU and CN was the same as trade btw RU and DE, in 2020 trade with China was already 2.5 times higher than with Germany (China is #1 in Russian trade and Germany #2, together their share is more than 1/4 of whole trade).
    While trade with China may be important for Russia it's much less important for China, being 12th on the list of their trading partners, below Vietnam. In fact either of EU or US do 7 times more trade with China than Russia.

    I wouldn't assume China's support on economic grounds.


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    While trade with China may be important for Russia it's much less important for China, being 12th on the list of their trading partners, below Vietnam. In fact either of EU or US do 7 times more trade with China than Russia.

    I wouldn't assume China's support!
    Well Vietnamese bananas may be substituted easily. But how you will substitute Russian gas, coil, palladium, platinum or fertilizers?

    At past winter Russia was only country what in conditions of energy deficit in China almost doubled coal export and energy export to China just in 3 days.
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    Well Vietnamese bananas may be substituted easily. But how you will substitute Russian gas, coil, palladium, platinum or fertilizers?

    At past winter Russia was only country what in conditions of energy deficit in China almost doubled coal export and energy export to China just in 3 days.
    Yeah, exactly like I said last night. Once this is all over, Russia will basically just be viewed as a barren, poverty stricken wasteland that is the world's natural resource depot. It's not like anyone is coming to Russia for R&D anytime soon, especially since your access to technology has now been cut off.

    You don't seem to realize Putin's little stunt has dragged Russia back by decades, and crippled its chances of becoming a competetive global economy going forward for quite some time to come.

    If you think China and Russia enjoy this amazing friendship and alliance, you're sorely mistaken. China's view of Russia is basically, "well, we don't really like you, but your posture is helping advance our own global ambitions, so we'll tolerate you while playing you and squeezing what we can out".

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    It's not like anyone is coming to Russia for R&D anytime soon, especially since your access to technology has now been cut off.
    It is your dream, dear. "Not like anyone coming" by fact is some going out, some keep working... A lot of foreign companies already announced what they will not change their politic. Some makes public steps for public relation then without nose started to work again.

    Like Apple Re:Store shops - they were closed only for 24 hours. There were a lot of loud cries about closure, following opening went without nose just in 24 hours.

    Destiny of Ukraine is already announced. Denazification and demilitarization. Red lines were known half of year in advance. Well, now some politics will be not so stupid.
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    It is your dream, dear. "Not like anyone coming" by fact is some going out, some keep working... A lot of foreign companies already announced what they will not change their politic. Some makes public steps for public relation then without nose started to work again.

    Like Apple Re:Store shops - they were closed only for 24 hours. There were a lot of loud cries about closure, following opening went without nose just in 24 hours.

    Destiny of Ukraine is already announced. Denazification and demilitarization. Red lines were known half of year in advance. Well, now some politics will be not so stupid.

    I'm talking about the multitude of technology export bans that have been placed on Russia by governments. Your dear leader was even complainig about it publicly in a speech a few days ago.

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    I wonder why German neo Nazi's were training in Russia?

    https://www.dw.com/en/why-are-german...sia/a-53702613

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    I wonder why German neo Nazi's were training in Russia?

    https://www.dw.com/en/why-are-german...sia/a-53702613
    They pay and have trainings. Anyone may do it: rent time of training camps with instructors, rent aircraft for jumps and so on - there is huge NCO DOSAAF what has aircrafts, training camps and so on. But it is NCO, i.e. non-govt structure.

    In Ukraine Nazi are located directly in Ukrainian army military institutes and academies. I already posted here western publications

    Also they have training in Canada https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/far-rig...says-1.5631304
    The Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) has been training and collaborating with neo-Nazi groups active in the Ukrainian Armed Forces and National Guard since 2017 https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/202.../uknz-d03.html


    But if your will search for destiny of Russian ultras and their leaders - you will quickly find what all them are in prisons... some even already died "by accidents". Check for Tesak (family name) destiny, Dyomushkin, Martcinkevich, Belov/Potkin, Datcick. Here public has low tolerance to Nazi. Google will help.
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