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    Sounds good, and NATO will expand to include Western Ukraine.
    They have no chance: as it was at past, parliament of Ukraine, where will be eastern members, will never have enough votes for to approve such law. Ukraine will keep neutral status after that.
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    Google translation from Ukrainian to English, quote from today speech of leader of president's party in Ukraine in parliament:

    “Every month we incur losses of $2-3 billion, panic is provoked. We cannot borrow money in foreign markets: there are already crazy rates. In addition, importers refuse to work with us. Every day we count losses. When someone decides to move their embassy to Lviv, the news alone will cost Ukraine several hundred million dollars.”
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    Re: The Brink of War?

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    They have no chance: as it was at past, parliament of Ukraine, where will be eastern members, will never have enough votes for to approve such law. Ukraine will keep neutral status after that.
    You said some provinces in Eastern Ukraine are getting usurped by Russia, so fuck them, they don't get a vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdnmatt View Post
    You said some provinces in Eastern Ukraine are getting usurped by Russia, so fuck them, they don't get a vote.
    "they don't get a vote" only if they aren't regions of Ukraine, you know... and I never said what any provinces of Ukraine are usurped - Russia has no armies in Ukraine, no one soldier.

    PS in awaiting of Russian invasion Reuters started live from Ukrainian capital Kyev. Don't forget to bring popcorn.



    and British The Sun announced invasion tonight:

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    Re: The Brink of War?

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    Google translation from Ukrainian to English, quote from today speech of leader of president's party in Ukraine in parliament:
    Fortunately, for the people of Ukraine, imports/exports should start improving incrementally once all of Putin's troops are removed from their border and life in Ukraine can resume to some level of normalcy. Markets and Investors don't like risk!

    When a fox is intent on killing a hen it moves so quietly through the bush that you can hear a pin drop. If you see the same fox standing in the middle of a field in broad daylight growling loud enough to disrupt an entire valley, he's just selling woof tickets.

    Unfortunately, for the loud fox, he'll have to be satisfied with a bone that one of the farmers toss him just to get him out of their sight, so life in the valley can return to normal again. Such is life!

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    Re: The Brink of War?

    It’s simplistic to think in terms of East versus West in today’s global multi-polar world

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    PS in awaiting of Russian invasion Reuters started live from Ukrainian capital Kyev. Don't forget to bring popcorn.
    What we have is a Schrodinger’s invasion

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    Shitty move of Putin in an interview to dare to bring even the mention of Nuclear weapons into the discussion when discussing how yes the West might be more powerful than Russia when allied militarily etc but Russia does have nuclear weapons which some of the smaller countries belonging to the allied side dont. That should be a topic just never to be thrown about so loosely and casually ( even as the veiled threat it obviously was meant to be) and as a veiled "reminder" of what we "could" do if we wanted type conversation. Very below the belt and not statesman like.

    His quote ( I'll have to accept the translation as accurate as I dont speak russian of course) was something like :

    "I want to reiterate , I have said this before but I would really like you to hear me this time and convey this message to your readers, viewers and internet users. Do you realise that if Ukraine joins NATO and decides to take Crimea back through military means the european Countries will automatically get drawn into a military conflict with Russia? Of course Nato's united potential and that of Russia are incomparable. We understand that, but we ALSO understand that Russia is one of the world leading Nuclear powers and is superior to many of those countries in terms of the number of modern nuclear force components. But there will be no winners, and you will find yourselves drawn into this conflict against your will."

    He does go on to say that he doesn't want that and will try to find compromises etc but either way, to even drop the mere hint of any nuclear aspect to things is a low ball move and says plenty about his mindset perhaps, maybe he isn't so different to Trump after all and I've given him too much credit until now :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nirish guy View Post
    Shitty move of Putin
    Surely you’ve realised by now that Putin isn’t a gentleman?

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    Re: The Brink of War?

    Let's just hope Putin has Perimeter turned off.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz3WGHCEP20

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