The Brink of War?

[StevieWonders]

The government in Ukraine has just said they’re prepared to abjure joining NATO. That’s been Putin’s aim all along - no NATO state on Russia’s border. Meanwhile there’s been weeks of posturing by Western governments crying “wolf” about a Russian invasion of Ukraine which was never going to happen. Putin can’t risk the opprobrium of a war with the Russian population. However the kleptocrats who prop up and benefit from his regime may well find that the planning for economic sanctions by Western governments in the fake war preparations may still be used against them to their detriment

As former British Prime Minister Harold Macmillan commented when asked about the unpredictability of government, “Events, dear boy, events”

[cdnmatt]

The government in Ukraine has just said they’re prepared to abjure joining NATO.

Source?

[StevieWonders]

Source?

Gander

[cdnmatt]

Only thing I can find is 21 hours ago Zelensky: saying Ukraine wants to be part of NATO still.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4_JUhMe0Go

[Moses]

But hang on surely you said the Russians weren't doing ANYTHING and this was all western fabrication and you simply had your own troops stationed in your own Country and the west was making this all up !

So are you saying now that "actually" yes it was all smart tactics of "war" ( but without war) by Putin after all and it wasn't just your own troops moving around and just sitting around in your own Country after all as you'd suggested to us ???

You wouldn't ever be telling lies to us now by any chance Moses would you ?? lol :-)

No. Army parts always were on perimeter of western border of Russia. Memory and flashbacks from past, you know. There are a lot of articles about dislocations in Wiki. Just check it: Kursk, Orel, Belgorod, Yelnya and so on - all these cities now on the map of "dislocations" from propaganda. But they (troops) always were there, even at times of USSR. And that I exactly told about Yelnya many pages ago. So I say the same what I told before.

It is Matt who is talking about troops withdrawal. I'm writing only about "Putin always have what he wants".

[latintopxxx]

...I really fear for the immediate future...The Us is led by a dementia patient and is weakened by toxic internal politiocs verging on civil war.....the UK has a mop haired bufoon at the helm with no shred of human decency....the EU as usual is all platitudes but totally toothless...merkel is no more....Macron is french...that says it all......on the other side we have a clever bright eyed totally focused fox able to mobilise 130,000 well armed men over a long weekend....scary...

[Moses]

...I really fear for the immediate future...The Us is led by a dementia patient and is weakened by toxic internal politiocs verging on civil war.....the UK has a mop haired bufoon at the helm with no shred of human decency....the EU as usual is all platitudes but totally toothless...merkel is no more....Macron is french...that says it all......on the other side we have a clever bright eyed totally focused fox able to mobilise 130,000 well armed men over a long weekend....scary...

That I predicted. Scholtz just gave offer from Ukraine to Putin about autonomy for East of Ukraine (special status law), it is 3rd step of Minsk protocol. If it will be implemented then everything will roll on right way, and then 8 years of waiting will be ended and will be relax in that drama.

[cdnmatt]

So Ukraine is splitting into two countries now? Are the Russians going to build another big ass wall?

In essence, the line moved from middle of Germany to Eastern Ukraine? That works.

[Moses]

So Ukraine is splitting into two countries now? Are the Russians going to build another big ass wall?

No, why? Russia does not recognize East as a separate country. East need Russian language at first as official local language. It is forbidden now. After special status they will get it back as it was before 2014. Also they will have Russian schools and ТV.

[cdnmatt]

Sounds good, and NATO will expand to include Western Ukraine.