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Thread: The Brink of War?

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    A record volume of Russian oil is on board tankers, with unprecedented amounts heading to India and China as other nations restrict imports because of the war in Ukraine.

    Between 74 million and 79 million barrels from the OPEC+ producer were in transit and floating storage over the past week, more than double the 27 million barrels just before the February invasion of Ukraine, according to Kpler. Asia overtook Europe as the largest buyer for the first time last month, and that gap is set to widen in May, according to the data and analytics company.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-shift-to-asia
    The full report also stated: China and India have snapped up millions of barrels from the country to take advantage of hefty discounts on the flows. Some of the interested buyers in Asia are more motivated by economics rather than taking a political stand,” said Jane Xie, a senior oil analyst at Kpler in Singapore." It also noted, "Vessels are forced on longer voyages when transporting crude -- such as flagship Urals -- from Russia’s western ports to Asia rather than Europe, with a one-way journey to China typically taking around two months."

    Of course the Chinese and the Indians are buying the heavily discounted oil - they're motivated by the economic considerations as they are not stupid. But they are not making a political statement by doing so.

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    Zelensky starts to cut "most high trees" around him, even in anti-Russian opposition parties.

    Yesterday: (Reuters) - Former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko was prevented from leaving Ukraine to take part in a meeting of a NATO body in Lithuania, his party's parliamentary faction said on Saturday.

    Poroshenko was stopped twice at a border crossing with Poland while he was on his way to the meeting of NATO's Parliamentary Assembly, a consultative interparliamentary organisation, the statement said.
    All the English-language reports state that "Ukrainian media reported Poroshenko could not cross the border due to "technical problems" with a permit allowing him to leave the country."

    Zelensky's name is not mentioned, and the Ukrainian government has yet to issue a statement on the reasons why he was stopped.

    With regard to "even in anti-Russian parties," Poroshenko is being investigated for treason in connection with the financing of Russian-backed separatists in the east of the country through illegal coal sales in 2014-15.

    Who are the other "most high trees" being cut down?

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    with a one-way journey to China typically taking around two months."

    Of course the Chinese and the Indians are buying the heavily discounted oil - they're motivated by the economic considerations as they are not stupid. But they are not making a political statement by doing so.
    Haha "Two months"

    Five days! Look here:
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...premium-europe

    Buyers are using creative ways to maintain flows as more shipowners shun Russian oil due to the potential fallout from financial sanctions, according to shipbrokers. Small vessels are being used to shuttle between Russia’s Kozmino port and the waters off Yeosu in South Korea, where cargoes undergo ship-to-ship transfer to supertankers for the next leg of the journey to China.

    The number of shipowners and insurers willing to handle Russian crude is dwindling, said shipbrokers, created a logistical challenge for producers and buyers working with fewer tankers. The new approach isn’t to dodge sanctions but to more effectively deploy the available fleet, they added.

    This process is unusual for ESPO crude, a type of Russian oil that’s typically loaded onto smaller tankers for a direct, five-day journey to China. While it adds to overall sailing time and costs, the brokers said the practice is becoming more common as shipowners and buyers prioritize a ready supply of small vessels to ferry oil out of Kozmino in short runs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonman View Post
    All the English-language reports state that "Ukrainian media reported Poroshenko could not cross the border due to "technical problems" with a permit allowing him to leave the country."

    Zelensky's name is not mentioned, and the Ukrainian government has yet to issue a statement on the reasons why he was stopped.

    With regard to "even in anti-Russian parties," Poroshenko is being investigated for treason in connection with the financing of Russian-backed separatists in the east of the country through illegal coal sales in 2014-15.

    Who are the other "most high trees" being cut down?
    "Zelensky will accuse Poroshenko of high treason and execute him in order to prevent the interception of power"? Who from the Western media will publish this?

    Of course, everyone will pretend that everything is going well. But everything will go the same way as it already happened in the history of Ukraine just a few years ago, when Yanukovich himself imprisoned his then rival, Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

    Each (!!!) Ukrainian president has been accused of murdering his opponents: Kravchuk - Boyko, Kuchma - Gongadze, Yushchenko - Getman and Stenchuk, Yanukovich even had criminal records in his past when was elected as a president, Poroshenko - Chernovil.

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    At this week:

    President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky intends to submit to the Verkhovna Rada a new draft law, which will spell out the special legal status of Polish citizens located on the territory of Ukraine.

    According to the representative of the Verkhovna Rada in the Constitutional Court of Ukraine Olga Sovgirithe bill will be introduced in the near future.

    “The President of Ukraine announced that a draft law on the special legal status of Polish citizens in Ukraine will be submitted to Parliament in the near future,” Sovgirya said.

    Earlier, the President of Poland Andrzej Duda arrived in Ukraine. According to the opposition politician of the Kyiv regime Ilya Kiva, the main purpose of his visit was to discuss with Volodymyr Zelensky the conditions and time of a possible transfer of control over the western regions of Ukraine to Poland.
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    The full report also stated: China and India have snapped up millions of barrels from the country to take advantage of hefty discounts on the flows.

    Of course the Chinese and the Indians are buying the heavily discounted oil
    Prices are "heavily discounted" against market, and are few times higher than prices in long-term contracts. Do you need proof? Look here then:

    Ursula von Leer Leyen in an interview on MSNBC yesterday https://twitter.com/StarboyHK/status...20997135863811

    What we always have to do is find the right balance between not hurting our economy because that’s our strongest side against this Russian aggression, Putin’s aggression, and taking the example of oil, what should We have to be wary of it that if we cut off completely and immediately from today on (Russian) oil, he (Putin) may be able to take the oil that he does not sell to the European Union to the world market where prices will increase and sell it for more
    So EU saves Ukraine from Putin when buys oil from Russia

    Orwell.
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    Re: The Brink of War?

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    As usual, you selectively quote to score a point. The Bloomberg article's opening sentence is "A logistically risky and costly transfer of crude between tankers at sea highlights the steps at least one Chinese buyer is willing to take to ensure the smooth flow of oil from eastern Russia to Asia." Only after that sentence does the article include the text you cited.

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    Prices are "heavily discounted" against market, and are few times higher than prices in long-term contracts. Do you need proof? Look here then:

    Ursula von Leer Leyen in an interview on MSNBC yesterday https://twitter.com/StarboyHK/status...20997135863811



    So EU saves Ukraine from Putin when buys oil from Russia

    Orwell.
    What Twitter says she said is "To save Europe from Putin, we must continue to buy Russian oil. Because if we don't, Putin will sell it elsewhere and profit more from higher prices, so we better buy Russian oil and not let him profit" (https://twitter.com/StarboyHK/status...20997135863811).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    At this week:

    President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky intends to submit to the Verkhovna Rada a new draft law, which will spell out the special legal status of Polish citizens located on the territory of Ukraine.

    According to the representative of the Verkhovna Rada in the Constitutional Court of Ukraine Olga Sovgirithe bill will be introduced in the near future.

    “The President of Ukraine announced that a draft law on the special legal status of Polish citizens in Ukraine will be submitted to Parliament in the near future,” Sovgirya said.

    Earlier, the President of Poland Andrzej Duda arrived in Ukraine. According to the opposition politician of the Kyiv regime Ilya Kiva, the main purpose of his visit was to discuss with Volodymyr Zelensky the conditions and time of a possible transfer of control over the western regions of Ukraine to Poland.
    You conveniently forgot to mention that "Poles in Ukraine will be granted “special legal status” similarly to the one Ukrainians fleeing Russia’s war receive when entering Poland, according to a draft bill Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has promised he would submit to parliament" (https://www.euractiv.com/section/all...us-in-ukraine/).

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    "Zelensky will accuse Poroshenko of high treason and execute him in order to prevent the interception of power"? Who from the Western media will publish this?

    Of course, everyone will pretend that everything is going well. But everything will go the same way as it already happened in the history of Ukraine just a few years ago, when Yanukovich himself imprisoned his then rival, Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko.

    Each (!!!) Ukrainian president has been accused of murdering his opponents: Kravchuk - Boyko, Kuchma - Gongadze, Yushchenko - Getman and Stenchuk, Yanukovich even had criminal records in his past when was elected as a president, Poroshenko - Chernovil.

    North Somalia.
    You claim that each Ukrainian president has been accused of murdering his opponents (but cite no sources), so how about this headline from 2015: "Putin’s killed opponents," or this from 2017 - "Here are 10 critics of Vladimir Putin who died violently or in suspicious ways,' https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...spicious-ways/. And this from 2021 - "ENEMIES OF PUTIN WHO HAVE DIED," https://www.grunge.com/625193/enemie...who-have-died/. The 2021 article list 14 people by name.

    There is no "North Somalia." unless you are referring to the Federal Member State of Puntland. Puntland is bordered on its west by the Republic of Somaliland, a former British territory that is now in a similar position to Taiwan, i.e., a de facto state considered internationally to be part of another state. Russians should be familiar with de facto states considered internationally to be parts of another as the term also applies to the People's Republics of Donetsk and Luhansk, Transnistria, Abkhazia and South Ossetia, as well as Kosovo, Palestine, etc.

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