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Thread: The Brink of War?

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    Dmitry Kiselyov, Russian state television executive and propagandist, in addition to threatening the UK with a Sarmat missile known as Satan II and “will be enough to sink it once and for all,” has now threatened that the use of one of Russia’s Poseidon torpedoes “could "plunge Britain into depths of the sea,” as “"The explosion of this thermonuclear torpedo near Britain's coastline will cause a gigantic tsunami up to 500 meters high.” Apparently, the torpedo “approaches its target at a depth of 1km at a speed of 200km per hour. There's no way of stopping this underwater drone.”

    As the weapon is supposedly more than 24 meters long, it's probably more accurate to describe it as an unmanned submarine than as either a drone or a torpedo.
    It is presently untested. If it travels at speeds of 200 kph (or over 100 knots), it would need to be rocket-powered. it is designed to be carried by a submarine in a sealed tube. Russia currently has somewhere between 49 and 64 submarines, of which it has only one special purpose submarine from which Poseidons would be launched - the B-90 Sarov. Its reported test depth is 300 metres (980 ft).

    Way to stop them 1: Seed the seabed around the UK with networks of sensor-mines to detect and destroy them. The seabed around the UK is comparatively shallow, i.e., nowhere near 1000 meters deep.
    Way to stop them 2: Use submarine-launched long-range hyper-sonic glide vehicles with payloads that could be lightweight torpedo or nuclear depth charge.

    American underwater nuclear explosive tests in shallow waters (admittedly at a lesser kilo-tonnage and not discounting that damage and long-term effects caused) suggest that generating a "tsunami" that “could "plunge Britain into depths of the sea” is more Russian bombast, i.e., high-sounding language with little meaning, used to impress people - most probably the Russian people.

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    Needless fear mongering.

    Why are you even bothering to post this garbage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodger View Post
    Needless fear mongering.

    Why are you even bothering to post this garbage?
    Just childish and screams desperation, doesn't it?

    Heard an interview from a test pilot yesterday -- started with CF-18s in Canada, then over to Europe to test Typhoon EuroFighter or something it's called, then for the past 17 years before retiring was with Lockheed Martin mainly testing the F-35. He was asjed how he thought the F-35 would do in Ukraine. He just confidently and humbled remarked this is the exact theater the F-35 was designed for, would rapidly dominate the Ukrainian skies, and obliterate the Russian air force and air defenses.

    One thing I didn't know before is I guess the F-35 is so different you can't really train older pilots on it, eh? I guess their plan is to retire out the older pilots on existing aircraft, and train the newer pilots on the F-35. I guess it's such a different beast the skills aren't all that transferrable, or at least an existing pilot wouldn't be taking full advantage of what the F-35 offers.

    Anyway, back on topic... you don't see the West in the media constantly bragging about this type of shit, now do you? I don't know what Russia is doing, but it's pretty pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodger View Post
    Needless fear mongering.

    Why are you even bothering to post this garbage?
    Because Putin's Russia is a classic bully that misunderstood the situation, miscalculated the response of its victim and, because it doesn't now know how to deal with the victim's response or that of bullied target's friends who have come to its aid, makes ever-more extravagant claims about what it will do next in order to frighten them into submission by claiming to have more powerful weapons it can use if it doesn't get its way - a form of psychological mind-games. One way of responding to a bully is by letting it understand that you know what it is doing and can (and will) respond if pushed to far. Alternatively, you can put your head in the sand and get your butt kicked,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonman View Post
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    One way of responding to a bully is by letting it understand that you know what it is doing and can (and will) respond if pushed to far.
    An old saying in the West is "Walk softly - but carry a big stick".

    The U.S. Military prefers speaking more by its "actions" than it does by "words", and boasting about its strength to frighten a tyrant like Putin serves no real purpose. Putin is already aware of this. This is what keeps him up at night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodger View Post
    An old saying in the West is "Walk softly - but carry a big stick".

    The U.S. Military prefers speaking more by its "actions" than it does by "words", and boasting about its strength to frighten a tyrant like Putin serves no real purpose. Putin is already aware of this. This is what keeps him up at night.
    For Sunzi (or Sun Tzu in The Art of War"), "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonman View Post

    For Sunzi (or Sun Tzu in The Art of War"), "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."
    That my friend is the "Art of Peace" for which I fully subscribe.

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    You know those morbidly obese kids who throw tantrums when they don't get to eat all the junk food they want?

    That's what Russia is. A 300lbs, 6 year old immature little shithead.

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    Ohh, and apparently Israel is now jumping into the fray and will begin sending weapons to help Ukraine now as well.

    Apparently, they took offense when Lavrov went on TV and started saying Hitler was a Jew. Shocking they took offense to that, I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdnmatt View Post

    Ohh, and apparently Israel is now jumping into the fray and will begin sending weapons to help Ukraine now as well.
    You would think Israel would be reluctant to give all those Nazi's in Ukraine free weapons.

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