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    History of Ukraine: The genocide of Ukrainians by Stalin

    To this day, it remains unknown how many people were executed by the lethal hunger (the Holodomor) in Ukraine in 1932-1933. In the decision made by the Supreme Court of Ukraine on January 13, 2010, the number of documented direct deaths by starvation during the 1932-33 Holodomor was announced to be 3,941,000.

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    Russia faces an absolute decline of population over the next several generations. Stalin was removed, but his effect may live on for two hundred years. Over time that could total 100 million people not counting the reduction in life expectancy and quality of life issues. Stalin is clearly the most destructive human to have ever lived.

    Putin will kill more?
    He still pockets a billion dollars per day in proceeds from oil from the stupid Russian people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdnmatt View Post
    Boo hoo, you're angry because the West is angry at Russia? Russia is the one that invaded a sovereign nation and is currently committing war crimes and genocide.

    What? Really? Artimis missions, Mars rover missions, SpaceX, et al?
    Only by Mr. Alzheimer. Macron for example deny it and refuse to call it "genocide". but Mr. Alzheimer can say whatever - he doesn't understand what he is saying anyway.

    Really. Check weight of "rovers etc" and compare with weight of any segment of ISS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dab69 View Post
    History of Ukraine: The genocide of Ukrainians by Stalin

    To this day, it remains unknown how many people were executed by the lethal hunger (the Holodomor) in Ukraine in 1932-1933. In the decision made by the Supreme Court of Ukraine on January 13, 2010, the number of documented direct deaths by starvation during the 1932-33 Holodomor was announced to be 3,941,000.

    How many people did Stalin have killed? and the ...
    [Search domain strategypage.com] https://www.strategypage.com › militaryforums › 30-40823.aspx
    Russia faces an absolute decline of population over the next several generations. Stalin was removed, but his effect may live on for two hundred years. Over time that could total 100 million people not counting the reduction in life expectancy and quality of life issues. Stalin is clearly the most destructive human to have ever lived.

    Putin will kill more?
    He still pockets a billion dollars per day in proceeds from oil from the stupid Russian people.
    Holocausts is recognized by any nation. Holodomor is anti-Russian propaganda from Ukraine - famine and mass deaths were everywhere in Soviet Union - from Kazakhstan to Ukraine including Russia. Ukrainian propagandists use that world for to accuse Russia and make some base and excuse for their nationalists ideas.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia...of_1921–1922
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakh...of_1919–1922
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet...of_1930–1933
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Only by Mr. Alzheimer. Macron for example deny it and refuse to call it "genocide". but Mr. Alzheimer can say whatever - he doesn't understand what he is saying anyway.

    Really. Check weight of "rovers etc" and compare with weight of any segment of ISS.
    You tell me, how many mass graves of civilians need to be found before it's classified a genocide?

    And please stop using this comparison logic / validation that you do. It's really weak. Next you'll be saying, "Well, Putin hasn't killed as many people as Hitler did, so what's the big deal?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdnmatt View Post
    You tell me, how many mass graves of civilians need to be found before it's classified a genocide?
    More than in Iraq, Libya, Syria. And for sure more than 14000 - because nobody classifies 14000 dead Russians in Donbass at past 8 years as genocide.
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    Putin will kill more?
    He still pockets a billion dollars per day in proceeds from oil from the stupid Russian people.

    They are like sheep and will do nothing as they are trained to follow and be slaughtered.

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    Re: The Brink of War?

    Julian E. Barnes and Edward Wong
    Wed, April 13, 2022, 1:04 PM·9 min read
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    The Echo of Moscow studio, just before the media outlet was shut down, in Moscow, March 3, 2022. (Nanna Heitmann/The New York Times)


    WASHINGTON — Using a mix of high-tech and Cold War tactics, Ukrainian activists and Western institutions have begun to pierce the propaganda bubble in Russia, circulating information about the Ukraine war among Russian citizens to sow doubt about the Kremlin’s accounts.

    The efforts come at a particularly urgent moment: Moscow appears to be preparing for a new assault in eastern Ukraine that could prove devastatingly bloody to both sides, while mounting reports of atrocities make plain the brutality of the Kremlin’s tactics.

    As Russia presents a sanitized version of the war, Ukrainian activists have been sending messages highlighting government corruption and incompetence in an effort to undermine faith in the Kremlin.

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    Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, a U.S.-funded but independent news organization founded decades ago, is trying to push its broadcasts deeper into Russia. Its Russian-language articles are published on copies of its websites called “mirrors,” which Russian censors seek out in a high-stakes game of whack-a-mole. Audience numbers have surged during the war despite the censorship.

    U.S. organizations are also promoting the use of software that allows Russian citizens to leap over the nascent firewall erected by the Kremlin to control internet access.

    The efforts face high barriers as the Kremlin tightens controls on journalists and the internet, passing laws that have forced the closure of independent media outlets, like the Echo of Moscow. President Vladimir Putin is doing all he can to keep Russians in the dark about Europe’s largest land war since 1945, with casualties going largely unreported in Russian news media.

    The Russian government has focused in particular on restricting reports of war casualties. In its most recent official announcement, in late March, Russia reported 1,351 military deaths, while the latest U.S. intelligence estimate, which was shared with Congress in recent days, put the number at 4,000 to 5,000.

    But cracks in Moscow’s facade are starting to show. On Thursday, the Kremlin’s spokesperson acknowledged that Russia had suffered “significant losses.”

    After the war started in February, Putin began erecting an internet firewall similar to China’s to block some Russian and Western news sites and social media networks. Russians can still visit Google and YouTube, but many Western sources of news are labeled “foreign agents.”

    An authoritarian government does not have to maintain a perfect firewall to keep its public in a propaganda bubble. Many Russians get their news from state-controlled television and radio. And some Russian analysts argue that most citizens support the government for reasons beyond their news diet and want to believe the Kremlin’s lines.

    American intelligence officials say that is why pushing information into Russia, and reaching the broadest population, is so difficult.

    Nevertheless, American and European officials say that the attempt by outsiders to get facts about the war to Russians is important.

    For now, Putin and the invasion remain popular in Russia, according to polls, though analysts caution that such measures of Russian attitudes are unreliable, mainly because many people fear making anti-war statements. The police have arrested thousands of protesters, and many people self-censor their remarks on Ukraine.

    There are early signs that the efforts to break down the wall of propaganda may be working, said a senior Western intelligence official, who like other security officials spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss classified or sensitive government assessments.

    And a U.S. data analytics company, FilterLabs.AI, which has been tracking Russian sentiment on internet message boards and other online forums, says it has measured growing anxiety among Russians about the draft and war casualties. Putin recently signed a decree ordering up about 134,500 conscripts, though the Defense Ministry said they would not go to Ukraine.

    “We could be at a turning point in Russian sentiment toward the initial invasion of Ukraine, when Russia attempted to take over the whole country,” said Jonathan Teubner, CEO of FilterLabs.

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    A global financial committee has ruled Russian Railways has tumbled into default after the company failed to make interest payments on $268 million of bonds, due to Western sanctions that have stymied Russia's access to the global financial system.

    The European section of the Credit Derivatives Determinations Committee ruled on Monday that the state-owned company had failed to make interest payments on the bonds due on March 14.

    It made Russian Railways the first official corporate default in the country since the invasion of Ukraine began in late February.

    The CDDC is a committee of financial institutions who meet to decide whether a company has defaulted. A ruling from the committee is a key step in allowing investors in credit-default swaps — contracts that act as insurance against defaults — to receive payouts.

    Despite the ruling, Russian Railways argued in a statement on Tuesday that it had fulfilled its obligations on the Swiss franc bond worth $268 million, as it had tried to pay but had been blocked due to sanctions, Bloomberg reported.


    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russi...102338606.html

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    Re: The Brink of War?

    Quote Originally Posted by dab69 View Post
    Putin will kill more?
    He still pockets a billion dollars per day in proceeds from oil from the stupid Russian people.

    They are like sheep and will do nothing as they are trained to follow and be slaughtered.
    Actually, a lot of it is from the stupid Western people, or mainly European people. That may abruptly change on Friday though, as new round of EU sanctions coming, and rumors that it will include not only a full ban on Russian oil and gas, but also an embargo as well stopping Russia from getting it's oil to the market altogether aside from their eastern oilfields.
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