The Brink of War?

[Moses]

Even Canadian snipers are friendly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdWoV77CjVY

Yeah. But only until he will be dead.
By the way: what he is doing is criminal in Canada.

And now fashion news.
New Louise Vuitton collection of jewelry by Alicia Vikander got high attention and demands

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[cdnmatt]

Yeah. But only until he will be dead.

Well, according to you guys he's already dead, and you killed him within 20 minutes.

[Brad the Impala]

Wagners - are private commercial company. They can't be "linked". It is first. Second: "Wagner group" aren't state structure. They accept orders from wide specter of different customers: from Mali, Iraq, Syrian govts till just regular oil companies like Shell and so on.

Oh please! You are just parroting the Kremlin's deniability position. Everyone knows that isn't the case.

The Wagner Group (Russian: Группа Вагнера, romanized: Gruppa Vagnera), also known as PMC Wagner, ChVK Wagner (ChVK being the Russian abbreviation for Private Military Company),[34] or CHVK Vagner (ЧВК Вагнера ChVK Vagnera, Частная Военная Компания Вагнера), is a Russian paramilitary organization. It is variously described as a private military company, a network of mercenaries, or a de facto private army of Russian President Vladimir Putin.[35]

The Wagner Group came to global prominence during the war in Donbas in Ukraine, where it aided separatist forces of the self-declared Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics from 2014 to 2015. Its contractors have reportedly taken part in various conflicts around the world—including the civil wars in Libya, Syria, the Central African Republic (CAR), and Mali—often fighting on the side of forces aligned with the Russian government. Though welcomed by some allied factions, such as the governments of Syria and the CAR, Wagner operatives have been accused of war crimes in areas where they are deployed.[36][37]

Because it often operates in support of Russian interests or foreign policy objectives, and is reportedly trained on installations of the Russian Ministry of Defence (MoD), several sources consider ChVK Wagner an arm's-length unit of the MoD and/or Russia's military intelligence agency, the GRU.[38] Likewise, the group is widely believed to be owned and/or financed by Yevgeny Prigozhin, a businessman with close links to Putin. It is speculated that the Wagner Group is used by the Russian government to allow for plausible deniability in certain conflicts; it has most recently been tied to the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, where it has been reportedly deployed to assassinate Ukrainian leaders.[39]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group

[Moses]

Oh please! You are just parroting the Kremlin's deniability position. Everyone knows that isn't the case.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group

Matt, do you want I will change "Putin" to "Matt" in this article? "Everyone knows" - is typical "proof" in case when person hasn't proof. "Everyone knows" now is just "parroting" of propaganda - CNN publishes bullshit and then "everyone knows". The only problem everyone knows fake from CNN.

By the way - there is nothing about neo-Nazi in this article.

Once again: Ukraine is state what incorporated widely recognized neo-Nazi "Azov" into state structure. Ukraine is state what cooperates with neo-Nazi and sponsors neo-Nazi. Point.

And all that started from nationalist coup in 2014.

[cdnmatt]

Yeah, that whopping 2% of the vote the Nazis got. Definitely justifies the invasion.

And wait, what? You guys equate Ukraine kicking Putin's stooge to the curb and wanting to join EU and NATO as them becoming "nazified"? That makes absolutely no sense, Moses.

[Moses]

Yeah, that whopping 2% of the vote the Nazis got. Definitely justifies the invasion.

And wait, what? You guys equate Ukraine kicking Putin's stooge to the curb and wanting to join EU and NATO as them becoming "nazified"? That makes absolutely no sense, Moses.

I'm saying not about how much Nazi got at voting. I'm saying state Ukraine incorporated Nazi into state structure. It gives them support form 2014. It gives them weapon from 2014.

And when someone here writes about "even one life", I want to ask: where was your tongue at past 8 years? In the ass? 14000+ persons gone in Donbass at past 8 years, over 1 million of refugees. Where was you tongues at that time?

[Brad the Impala]

Yeah, yeah, sure it's just a coincidence that the Wagner group always shows up where Putin needs them. Just as it's a coincidence that the GRU agents showed up in Salisbury to admire the cathedral at the time that the Skripals were poisoned. Just as it was a coincidence that a Russian BUK missile launcher was in the area from which a Malaysian airline was shot down.

Same old cracked record and really feeble lies and denials.

Nobody is fooled by the denials, except perhaps yourselves.

[Moses]

Yeah, yeah, sure it's just a coincidence that the Wagner group always shows up where Putin needs them. Just as it's a coincidence that the GRU agents showed up in Salisbury to admire the cathedral at the time that the Skripals were poisoned. Just as it was a coincidence that a Russian BUK missile launcher was in the area from which a Malaysian airline was shot down.

Same old cracked record and really feeble lies and denials.

Oh please stops that crocodile's tears...

Wagner is official private military company - they do what other companies does - taking orders and do their jobs. Maybe you forgot names of US PMC? Over 100,000 contractors were used by US govt only in Iraq. Why you starting to talk about such business now? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_military_company

As per Skripals - they are Russian citizens. At least. Israel killed 6 foreign citizens at past 10 years in foreign countries, mainly Iranian scientists. Do you want to discuss it? Or maybe you want to discuss how general from Iran has been killed by US drone in 2020? Is US in state of war with Iran? No?

Do you think only some states have rights for justice while other haven't? You use double standards dear.

As per "Russian BUK" - there is no court's resolution yet. Presumption of innocence is still in power? Or "for Russians we will use special law"?

[Manforallseasons]

Russian rednecks and Russian gays are incorrect to compare. Russian gays are an oppressed social group in their own country and a vacation in Thailand was a breath of fresh air for them.

Considering their plight they should join the fight on the side of the Ukrainians!

[Moses]

Considering their plight they should join the fight on the side of the Ukrainians!

No one will join Ukrainians. Here are protest against war as not the best method, but nobody want to protect Ukrainians nationalist regime.