The Brink of War?

[Moses]

According to numerous reports (go ahead and Google them), the Neo Nazi movement is active in at least 33 countries on 6 continents - which includes almost all of Europe and the U.S. If this was Putin's motive for attacking Ukraine - then the rest of Europe and the U.S. would be next.

Anyone who believes Putin's neo Nazi line has to be either extremely gullible...totally brainwashed...or a combination of both. As they would say in Chicago..."He's pissing down your backs and telling you it's just raining outside".

Anyone who's confused about this just has to ask themselves one simple question: Would the killing of thousands of innocent civilians, including defenseless women and children, be justified because of a hunt for "bad guys" who represent less than 0.2% of the population??? Do you get the picture - or do you still think it's just the rain?

yes, that's right, but only in Ukraine neo-nazi are based in state military academia, are sponsored by state, have military cars and heavy weaponry, and are part of state guard system under control of ministry of internal affairs...

by the way: " the killing of thousands of innocent civilians" is just Kiev's propaganda... officially published by UN number yesterday is below 1000: Russia doesn't use that barbarian methods what US used when vaporized tens of thousands Japanese in Hiroshima and Nagasaki just in 1 minute, or burned tens of thousands Vietnamese by burning whole villages.

[cdnmatt]

Yeah, Dodger! They've fired off over 1100 missiles and only killed less than 1000 civilians.

That's because Russians are awesome, and the most advanced military in the world with amazin surgical precision of all missiles to ensure no civilian deaths.

I'm with ya Moses! When do the Putin statues and shrines get constructed all throughout the land?

[Moses]

Yeah, Dodger! They've fired off over 1100 missiles and only killed less than 1000 civilians.

That's because Russians are awesome, and the most advanced military in the world with amazin surgical precision of all missiles to ensure no civilian deaths.

I'm with ya Moses! When do the Putin statues and shrines get constructed all throughout the land?

Matt, US is far from hypersonic missiles technology what are already in Russian and Chinese armies. Check for "Kinzhal" brand, what has been used 2 night ago for to burn Ukrainian underground ammo warehouse (formerly USSR nuclear warehouse burred 50 meters deep), Pentagon already confirmed that launch, video is widely circulated on Youtube. There is no protection against such missiles at the West, no one Western technology can intercept such missiles. Russian S-500 can do it.

[Dodger]

......by the way: " the killing of thousands of innocent civilians" is just Kiev's propaganda... officially published by UN number yesterday is below 1000:.

Frankly, I don't believe the numbers being reported by either side.

What I do believe is what I see with my eyes: Daily international video broadcasts coming from a myriad of sources showing entire towns completely destroyed by Russian bombs and missiles...including civilian structures like schools hospitals, etc. in highly populated areas - which tells me that after 3 weeks of constant bombardment the number of civilian casualties across Ukraine is somewhere in the "thousands" not "hundreds" like some would want you to believe.

Both sides are reporting numbers that are so far skewed from this reality that it 's best to just ignore them and use common sense. Better yet, just subscribe to the notion that ONE unnecessary civilian death is too many, and leave all the spins and twisted rationalizations to the politicians.

[gerefan2]

Both sides are reporting numbers that are so far skewed from this reality that it 's best to just ignore them and use common sense. Better yet, just subscribe to the notion that ONE unnecessary civilian death is too many, and leave all the spins and twisted rationalizations to the politicians.

But we have nearly 120 pages, mainly written by three posters, discussing just that.

Where would it leave them?!

[Brad the Impala]

There are foul and unacceptable groups of extreme right wing nationalists fighting on both sides unfortunately. However they are fighting on Ukranian territory because of the Russian invasion and it is the Ukranian population that is suffering as a result of that invasion.

Russian mercenaries fighting in Ukraine, including the Kremlin-backed Wagner Group, have been linked to far-right extremism including an organisation designated by the US as terrorist, analysis reveals.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ght-extremists

[Andy]

I wonder, Moses, if at least one person on this forum agrees with your interpretation of what is happening?..

[cdnmatt]

I wonder, Moses, if at least one person on this forum agrees with your interpretation of what is happening?..

Of course not, but that's simply because we're not awesome like Russians are. Us simpletons just don't get it.

[Moses]

There are foul and unacceptable groups of extreme right wing nationalists fighting on both sides unfortunately. However they are fighting on Ukranian territory because of the Russian invasion and it is the Ukranian population that is suffering as a result of that invasion.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ght-extremists

Wagners - are private commercial company. They can't be "linked". It is first. Second: "Wagner group" aren't state structure. They accept orders from wide specter of different customers: from Mali, Iraq, Syrian govts till just regular oil companies like Shell and so on.

They aren't sitting in state military academy, they haven't parliament members, they aren't sponsored by state.

Feel the difference: neo-Nazi Azov is incorporated into state structures

[Moses]

Is Biden Ignoring a Key Tool to Combat Violent Extremists?

White supremacist groups increasingly cross borders, sharing tactics and grievances. But the State Department has yet to designate any of them as an international terrorist organization.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...mists-00005674

The 2019 Christchurch, New Zealand mosque attacks are seen by many experts as transnational terrorism in action. Tarrant, who killed 51 people in two mosques, has been linked to the Azov Battalion, a Ukraine-based paramilitary white supremacist group. The flak jacket Tarrant wore during the assault included a symbol used by the Azov Battalion and other global Neo-Nazis; his manifesto, which was published online and has been cited by white supremacists worldwide, claims that he visited Ukraine.

Azov Battalion has allegedly trained scores of American extremists who have streamed into Eastern Ukraine over the years to join in the fight against Russian separatist forces as a means of getting fighting experience.