The Brink of War?

[Moses]

That's 100 million

exactly...

[cdnmatt]

Good thing the Russians brought mobile cremiumatoriums with them.

Those body bags looked horrible back in the Afghanistan days. Apparently, lesson learned.

[Moses]

Good thing the Russians brought mobile cremiumatoriums with them.

Those body bags looked horrible back in the Afghanistan days. Apparently, lesson learned.

It is fake news again. You can easy find that "mobile crematorium" and video what is posted as a proof of their existence at youtube - ZAO Turmalin is manufacturer of mobile incinerators for elimination of biohazardous objects of 1-4 class. Located in Sankt-Petersburg. Video form fake news was recorded as advertising in 2013. On the video model ИН-50.

Kiev's propaganda already used that video in 2014 as a proof of big loss within "separatists".

Welcome https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWp...STYmtZT4h5oVYA

[cdnmatt]

I'm confused though. If all this bullshit is to protect and save the Russian people, why totally level a city like Mariupol that has ~70% Russian speaking population?

[Moses]

NYT, 2015: Azov Battalion is "openly neo-Nazi"

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NYT, yesterday: Azov Battalion is "far-right"

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All you have to do to lose your status as a "Nazi" is fight on the side of the US.

[Moses]

2019.

On Wednesday, New York Rep. Max Rose, who chairs the counterterrorism subcommittee, submitted a letter to the State Department, co-signed by 39 members of Congress. It urged the department to designate Azov Battalion (a far-right paramilitary regiment in Ukraine), National Action (a neo-Nazi group based in the U.K.), and Nordic Resistance Movement (a neo-Nazi network from Scandinavia) as terrorist organizations.

“It’s clear that the threat we face today is of a self-radicalized gunman,” Rose, a Democrat, told VICE News. “Somebody who has been radicalized online, whether it’s in accordance with jihadi ideology or a global white nationalist, neo-Nazi group.”

https://www.vice.com/en/article/59nq...nal-terrorists

[cdnmatt]

Yes Moses, we know, Putin is just doing us all a favor. We're all just being ungrateful.

[Moses]

HEARING

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON
INTELLIGENCE AND
COUNTERTERRORISM

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED SEVENTEENTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION

__________

APRIL 29, 2021

__________

Serial No. 117-10

A handful of Americans have even sought
to travel overseas to take up arms and fight alongside these
groups. We saw it, for instance, in September 2019 when a U.S.
Army soldier at Fort Riley--who was planning to travel to
Ukraine to fight with the Azov Battalion, a paramilitary
militia--was arrested for distributing bomb-making
instructions.
We have seen this for 20 years as individual Americans get
radicalized on-line, seek out groups, like al-Qaeda in Yemen,
and share tactics, ideology, and, in some cases, carry out
deadly attacks on the United States.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/...7hhrg44824.htm

[Moses]

Time magazine, 2021

Outside Ukraine, Azov occupies a central role in a network of extremist groups stretching from California across Europe to New Zealand, according to law enforcement officials on three continents. And it acts as a magnet for young men eager for combat experience. Ali Soufan, a security consultant and former FBI agent who has studied Azov, estimates that more than 17,000 foreign fighters have come to Ukraine over the past six years from 50 countries.

The vast majority have no apparent links to far-right ideology. But as Soufan looked into the recruitment methods of Ukraine’s more radical militias, he found an alarming pattern. It reminded him of Afghanistan in the 1990s, after Soviet forces withdrew and the U.S. failed to fill the security vacuum. “Pretty soon the extremists took over. The Taliban was in charge. And we did not wake up until 9/11,” Soufan tells TIME. “This is the parallel now with Ukraine.”

At a hearing of the House Committee on Homeland Security in September 2019, Soufan urged lawmakers to take the threat more seriously. The following month, 40 members of Congress signed a letter calling—unsuccessfully—for the U.S. State Department to designate Azov a foreign terrorist organization. “Azov has been recruiting, radicalizing, and training American citizens for years,” the letter said. Christopher Wray, the director of the FBI, later confirmed in testimony to the U.S. Senate that American white supremacists are “actually traveling overseas to train.”

https://time.com/5926750/azov-far-ri...ment-facebook/ longread with a lot of details

[Dodger]

According to numerous reports (go ahead and Google them), the Neo Nazi movement is active in at least 33 countries on 6 continents - which includes almost all of Europe and the U.S. If this was Putin's motive for attacking Ukraine - then the rest of Europe and the U.S. would be next.

Anyone who believes Putin's neo Nazi line has to be either extremely gullible...totally brainwashed...or a combination of both. As they would say in Chicago..."He's pissing down your backs and telling you it's just raining outside".

Anyone who's confused about this just has to ask themselves one simple question: Would the killing of thousands of innocent civilians, including defenseless women and children, be justified because of a hunt for "bad guys" who represent less than 0.2% of the population??? Do you get the picture - or do you still think it's just the rain?