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    Meanwhile Ukraine extended limits for males who can't leave country from 18-50 to from 16 till 60 yo. Also 2 weeks ago parliament canceled exemptions for ill people to be mobilized. Now is legal to mobilize people with tuberculosis, HIV, hepatitis, epilepsy, psychic disorder and much more illnesses.

    And here you may see how looks "mobilization" on the Ukrainian streets - cars with few strong men hunting on streets and catching people who is male and within 18-50 yo limits. Men on the video is crying in Ukrainian language "Help!", but nobody helps.

    Published few days ago in Ukrainian channel https://t.me/stranaua/122907

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    ===an independent Russia media outlet===

    Yeah, located somewhere in EU, using protonmail as email address as the only contact. Why you call them "Russian"? Nobody from nowhere.

    But fact is correct. 230 000 is ordered to print. In the same contract is described, what from 230 000 only 30 000 should be delivered to Ministry of social protection, rest 200 000 should be send to warehouse of Ministry of defense.

    Since the only ministry who is responsible for issuing of such IDs is Ministry of social protection, you may clearly see what is exactly number of deaths for now - for sure below 30 000.

    Moreover ID are personal, and that means what 1 family may receive multiple IDs - parents, widow, children above 16 yo (they have rights for free education in colleges and UNI).
    Vertska probably uses protonmail (a Swiss-based service), which "uses client-side encryption to protect email content and user data before they are sent to Proton Mail servers, unlike other common email providers such as Gmail and Outlook.com." (https://proton.me/) for the same reason I also use an email service other than Gmail or Outlook.com.

    Please provide a link to the contract so that your claim that "from 230 000 only 30 000 should be delivered to Ministry of social protection, rest 200 000 should be send to warehouse of Ministry of defense.".

    Your claim that "exactly number of deaths for now - for sure below 30 000" is for what time period, as it is not supported by other sources, e.g., "How many Russians have died in Ukraine? Data shows what Moscow hides" (https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...ry-deaths-facd) which suggested in July 2023 a figure of nearly 50,000 Russian dead in the war in Ukraine.

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    Meanwhile Ukraine extended limits for males who can't leave country from 18-50 to from 16 till 60 yo. Also 2 weeks ago parliament canceled exemptions for ill people to be mobilized. Now is legal to mobilize people with tuberculosis, HIV, hepatitis, epilepsy, psychic disorder and much more illnesses.

    And here you may see how looks "mobilization" on the Ukrainian streets - cars with few strong men hunting on streets and catching people who is male and within 18-50 yo limits. Men on the video is crying in Ukrainian language "Help!", but nobody helps.

    Published few days ago in Ukrainian channel https://t.me/stranaua/122907

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    Why didn't you comment when Russia passed a series of bills to raise its conscription age and allowing the calling up 70-year-olds in the higher ranks in an effort to avoid another large-scale mobilization? Or when Russia, facing mounting manpower shortages, announced the mobilization of 300,000 reservists in one fell swoop last year, prompting tens of thousands of Russian men to flee? Or when Russia also passed a bill that prohibits men who have been conscripted from leaving the country in an attempt to cut down on draft dodging? (see, e.g., https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/07...a-ukraine-news).

    With regard to empty streets - "Where Have All the Men in Moscow Gone?" New York Times, Oct 19, 2022, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/19/w...rmy-draft.html.

    Your comment on changes to men who can be mobilized in Ukraine is misleading in that people with clinically cured tuberculosis, viral hepatitis, slowly progressing blood diseases, thyroid gland diseases with minor functional disorders, and those who are HIV-positive but without symptoms, are considered still fit for military service. In addition, people suffering from mild mental disorders, neurotic disorders, slowly progressive diseases of the central nervous system and others have been added to the list. The reason given for the changes was to "clear it of those who use their positions against the security and defense of our state (https://kyivindependent.com/ukraines...-mobilization/).

    As it is impossible to identify the location or the circumstances shown in the video clip, it could have come from a TV show.

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    ====As it is impossible to identify the location or the circumstances shown in the video clip, it could have come from a TV show.===
    Yeah, to deny is first stage always...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post

    Published few days ago in Ukrainian channel https://t.me/stranaua/122907

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    I have looked again at the video clip. According to the description below it, this apparently took place in Lviv, but the date and location are not given. The interesting point about the clip, however, is that the comments below it apparently are in Russian, not Ukrainian, though I could be mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonman View Post
    I have looked again at the video clip. According to the description below it, this apparently took place in Lviv, but the date and location are not given. The interesting point about the clip, however, is that the comments below it apparently are in Russian, not Ukrainian, though I could be mistaken.
    StranaUA (transl. UA country() is Ukrainian news service for Russian speaking people, it isn't proRussian (isn't pro Russian Federation), but is media of opposition in Ukraine, part of opposition who also supports EU, but are competitors to Zelenskiy. That why comments are in Russian. They are more left, something what in most countries will call social-democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    StranaUA (transl. UA country() is Ukrainian news service for Russian speaking people, it isn't proRussian (isn't pro Russian Federation), but is media of opposition in Ukraine, part of opposition who also supports EU, but are competitors to Zelenskiy. That why comments are in Russian. They are more left, something what in most countries will call social-democrats.
    The European Press Roundup website (https://www.eurotopics.net/en/192896/strana) confirms that StranaUA "Articles are published in Russian only," and that its "Political orientation" is "Critical of the government." But it also states that "Opponents describe the site as pro-Russian and financed by Russians."

    The detention of one conscript at an unspecified time and location (other than it being in Lviv oblast) doesn't compare with the following cases, which I don't recall you mentioning anywhere: "Eight conscripted men have been detained near Moscow after leaving Luhansk Oblast with weapons; a serviceman from Kamchatka [Russia’s Far East – ed.] has been sentenced to 1.8 years in prison for refusing to participate in hostilities in Ukraine, and two local residents have been killed during their arrest in Kabardino-Balkaria [a subject of the Russian Federation, part of the North Caucasus Federal District – ed.] - those killed had allegedly been preparing an attack on the military registration and enlistment office." Source: Russian Telegram channel Baza (Source: "Eight Russian conscripts detained near Moscow after fleeing from Luhansk with weapons." (https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/12/27/7382529/, Tuesday, 27 December 2022).

    All of these events merely emphasize the stupidity, futility and sheer folly of this "special military operation" where, according to research by the think tank RUSI (Royal United Services Institute), Vladimir Putin expected to take control of Ukraine within 10 days (https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/how-P...ost-in-10-days).

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    ====The detention of one conscript at an unspecified time and location (other than it being in Lviv oblast)====

    So you easy make conclusion what it is 1 only case just because I show one case? Bravo.
    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...украина

    Ukraine desperate mobilizing everyone who didn't run from country. More than year ago they already started to mobilize even woman.

    ===All of these events merely emphasize the stupidity, futility and sheer folly of this "special military operation" where, according to research by the think tank RUSI===
    The most stupid "research" unless they can read mind.

    West is sponsor of war "till last Ukrainian".

    Cyndy McCain (widow of senator McCain) told few days ago in UN: Ukraine [...] has sucked the oxygen out of the room.

    https://www.newsweek.com/cindy-mccai...rogram-1827910
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    ====The detention of one conscript at an unspecified time and location (other than it being in Lviv oblast)====

    So you easy make conclusion what it is 1 only case just because I show one case? Bravo.
    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...украина

    Ukraine desperate mobilizing everyone who didn't run from country. More than year ago they already started to mobilize even woman.

    ===All of these events merely emphasize the stupidity, futility and sheer folly of this "special military operation" where, according to research by the think tank RUSI===
    The most stupid "research" unless they can read mind.

    West is sponsor of war "till last Ukrainian". Which Western leader said this??

    Cyndy McCain (widow of senator McCain) told few days ago in UN: Ukraine [...] has sucked the oxygen out of the room.

    https://www.newsweek.com/cindy-mccai...rogram-1827910

    To cite your earlier response: "Yeah, to deny is first stage always..." It is what you have done since the beginning of this special military operation. For example, you denigrate the RUSI report but provide no evidence it is incorrect. Either that, or you fall silent because you have no response to make.

    With regard to the mobilization of women, this is simply Ukraine giving women equality with men, something for which the worldwide women's movement have been agitating, and which Norway and Sweden have done since 2015 and 2018 respectively. Perhaps you do not remember that the Soviet Union conscripted the most women for combat, comparative to other national military during wartime and especially during WW II (S. Marble, "Filling the ranks: conscription and personnel policies", The Cambridge History of the Second World War, Cambridge University Press, pp. 585–607).

    West is sponsor of war "till last Ukrainian". Which Western leader said this??

    Cyndy McCain actually said that " funding surrounding Ukraine has "sucked the oxygen out." This was in reference to funding for the World Food Program (https://www.newsweek.com/cindy-mccai...rogram-1827910). Your misquoting her is symptomatic of your postings out of context.

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