The Brink of War?

[Moses]

Kissinger is one of those dinosaurs [...] He has not held political office since January 20, 1977, or more than 45 years ago.

Yeah. Exactly because of that he has been invited to held speech in Davos, right?

The Ukrainians' answer to Kissinger: "‘Davos Panicker,’ Ukraine slams Henry Kissinger for saying country must cede land to Russia."

Who cares about about Ukraine's "answer"? Ukraine is object in this conflict, it isn't subject. Big countries plays geopolitical chess, Ukraine is the pawn on the chessboard.

[Dragonman]

Yeah. Exactly because of that he has been invited to held speech in Davos, right?

Who cares about about Ukraine's "answer"? Ukraine is object in this conflict, it isn't subject. Big countries plays geopolitical chess, Ukraine is the pawn on the chessboard.

Kissinger was a Cold War strategist but the Cold War ended when the USSR self-destructed. As Kissinger himself said on May 9, 2022, "We are now living in a totally new era." At that time, he also said that he thought that Putin had "miscalculated the situation he faced internationally and he obviously miscalculated Russia’s capabilities to sustain such a major enterprise — and when the time for settlement comes all need to take that into consideration, that we are not going back to the previous relationship but to a position for Russia that will be different because of this — and not because we demand it but because they produced it" (https://www.ft.com/content/cd88912d-...f-0c37cb7f0e2f).

As a dinosaur from the past, his views are irrelevant and distasteful, as the response on social media has shown (see, e.g., https://www.newsweek.com/henry-kissi...mments-1709636). Dr. John Chipman, current CEO of the International Institute for Strategic Studies (which is a world-leading authority on global security, political risk and military conflict) and a specialist in international security, dismissed Kissinger's speech as "An unfortunate intervention by Dr Kissinger at #wef22 — There is no strategic reason for Ukraine to concede its sovereignty to Putin, and every strategic reason for the West to support Kyiv to defeat Putin. There is no reason to be frightened of victory." As he's 98 years old, I suspect that in the intervening two weeks, he forgot what he had earlier stated.

If you're going to use a chess analogy to dismiss the Ukrainians as pawns on the chessboard (presumably with Putin as King), remember that pawns on a chessboard can checkmate kings. Garry Kimovich Kasparov, Russian chess grand master and former World Chess Champion will show you how at https://www.masterclass.com/articles...king-explained.

[Moses]

If you're going to use a chess analogy to dismiss the Ukrainians as pawns on the chessboard (presumably with Putin as King)

It is your presumption. My presumption: Putin is one of chess players.

[Moses]

At May 15, 2022, in Warsaw, Poland, at the Catholic mass bishop Richard Williamson hold speech about current situation in Ukraine. He spoke in English, translation to Polish has been clipped out. Here is video with Russian subtitles.

[dab69]

Kissinger is one of those dinosaurs that Moses earlier dismissed - but now seems to give credence to.

Early childhood friends...

Anyway the real estate to end the war clearly clearly shows the war is not about imaginary "Nazis" .
It's a land grab of Nazi proportions. The invaders want it all, the women and children dead, the grain and farm implements stolen...

[Dragonman]

It is your presumption. My presumption: Putin is one of chess players.

If the king is in check, and the checked player has no moves to get out of check, the king is checkmated and the player loses.

[Moses]

Instead of listening to "Ukrainian answers", look at Ukrainian actions. And Zelensky’s actions over the past month are as follows: more than 10 political parties have been banned, the former: Minister of the Interior Avakov (he is also the main patron of the Nazis), Prime Minister Yatsenyuk, Speaker of Parliament Turchynov, President Poroshenko were summoned to the prosecutor’s office, so far as witnesses, in a case of treason.

Zelensky removes everyone who can interfere with him in peace negotiations with Russia, removes those who may try to seize power in Ukraine, while accepting Russia's conditions.

Because, no matter how long the conflict lasts, the end will be the same - peace negotiations. And the situation is working against Ukraine: the main resource that will run out first is Ukrainian conscripts. Ukraine has already mobilized everyone from the age of 18 to 60. The West will not be able to prolong the conflict "until the last Ukrainian" indefinitely: conscripts are not an endless resource.

As soon as Zelensky clears the "political clearing" from the highest "trees", and will be sure that no one will throw him out of the presidency, his current "heroic" rhetoric will be replaced by a search for a compromise.

[Dragonman]

At May 15, 2022, in Warsaw, Poland, at the Catholic mass bishop Richard Williamson hold speech about current situation in Ukraine. He spoke in English, translation to Polish has been clipped out. Here is video with Russian subtitles.

You really should research who this person is, and his standing in the Roman Catholic Church, before citing him. He is a renegade British former bishop. He has been suspended indefinitely from his episcopal functions until he unequivocally and publicly distances himself from his stated position on the Holocaust, which he denies happened. He has been excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church. In Germany, he is a convicted criminal. Williamson was formerly a member of the ultra-conservative Society of Saint Pius X but was kicked out in 2012 for disobeying orders from his superiors. He was excommunicated by the Vatican in 1988 after he was ordained by a fundamentalist archbishop against papal orders, and again in 2015.

If you really believe that Putin wants to "deNazify" Ukraine, this so-called Holocaust-denying ex-bishop is probably the last person you should link to on this board.

[dab69]

The Ukrainians attempt to identify the dead: on the body just brought in, the forensics team turned up two bank cards, as well as badges for a Russian motorised rifle brigade.

"At least this one has a chance of getting home," the man in charge announced, displaying the finds, including a soiled fragment of T-shirt printed with the Army of Russia logo.

Moments later, I confirmed that the man I had just seen exhumed had been a young, married soldier from Siberia. Next to his body bag, a carefully posed black-and-white photograph from his social media profile stared out from my phone.

Russia has a proud slogan: "We don't abandon our own." It's a big part of President Vladimir Putin's supposed justification for invading Ukraine, where he falsely claimed Russian-speakers needed protection.

That pledge appears not to apply so much to Russia's own soldiers.

"The bodies we've found show they treat people as rubbish, as cannon fodder," Col Volodymyr Liamzin told the BBC. "They don't need their soldiers. They throw them here, retreat - and leave the bodies."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europ...5D-%5Bisapi%5D

[Moses]

You really should research who this person is, and his standing in the Roman Catholic Church, before citing him. He is a renegade British former bishop. He has been suspended indefinitely from his episcopal functions until he unequivocally and publicly distances himself from his stated position on the Holocaust, which he denies happened. He has been excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church. In Germany, he is a convicted criminal. Williamson was formerly a member of the ultra-conservative Society of Saint Pius X but was kicked out in 2012 for disobeying orders from his superiors. He was excommunicated by the Vatican in 1988 after he was ordained by a fundamentalist archbishop against papal orders, and again in 2015.

If you really believe that Putin wants to "deNazify" Ukraine, this so-called Holocaust-denying ex-bishop is probably the last person you should link to on this board.

Does it matter? He had speech in Poland in Warsaw 2 weeks ago. In Catholic community. What do you think - they didn't know who he is?