The Brink of War?

[Dodger]

Regardless if Putin is concerned with this or not, his decisions going forward could put Russia in an even worse situation. Up until now all the fighting, bloodshed, and mass destruction, has been across the border in Ukraine - but I wonder what would happen if Ukraine launched a major offensive against Russia?

As I reply to myself:

According to The Moscow Times - people in Russian border towns are now wondering the same thing.

Wouldn't it be something if Ukraine ends up annexing Russia?

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/...fensive-a78797

[Moses]

====Wouldn't it be something if Ukraine ends up annexing Russia?===

Right now Russia uses "soft hands regime" - on the right bank of the Dnepr (central and west parts of Ukraine) almost all bridges, dams, power stations, manufacture plants, railroads are untouched and trains are running. All Ukrainian "heads" - president, his vices, government are alive and are freely moving by country. A lot of European officials including heads of states visit Kiev easy and often. All military actions are going only on the left bank - on the East.

Kiev with its working casinos and night clubs is located just in 200 km from the border, Russian aircrafts even don't need to cross Russia-Ukraine border for for to fire missiles for to "close" all this nightlife. Above Kiev by Dnepr river in 15 km is located huge water reservoir with dam.

So Ukrainians should afraid not "annexing", but "to annoy too much". Because Russia may change that. Russia controls whole Ukrainian sky. Better is do not push.

[Andy]

Russia may change that. Because Russia controls whole Ukrainian sky. Better is do not push.

I think they send that kind of reports to the bunker. Someone finally have to tell him...

[latintopxxx]

not that our opiniuions matter but we do need to stop this silly sabre rattling, Russia has weapons (cheocasl/nuclear) that they havent deployted yet and are fighting withb a volunteer army, if the Russia itself was invadfed I'd imagine that all optuions would be actioned, a scary sxcenario. To top it all, as far as I can tell they are the same people, i cry for all the gorgeous bel ami model types being killed and maimed. Not even Russia's worst enemy could have conjured such am evil outcome...putin will burn brighter and longer than the sun when he finally makes it to hell

[Dodger]

====Wouldn't it be something if Ukraine ends up annexing Russia?===

Right now Russia uses "soft hands regime" - on the right bank of the Dnepr (central and west parts of Ukraine) almost all bridges, dams, power stations, manufacture plants, railroads are untouched and trains are running.

Maybe the right bank of the Dnepr is unharmed TODAY, but just YESTERDAY Ukrainian forces crossed the Oskil River in the northeastern Kharkiv region and now control both banks of the river.

It doesn't appear like the Ukrainian military subscribes to the notion of "soft hands regime"in their offensive strategy, which is probably the reason why Russian border towns are living in fear right now. That seems logical to me anyway.

[Dragonman]

"So Ukrainians should afraid not "annexing", but "to annoy too much". Because Russia may change that. Russia controls whole Ukrainian sky. Better is do not push."

In one of his dispatches for the Associated Press , published on 7 February 1968, Peter Arnett, a New Zealand-born American correspondent, wrote about the Battle of Bến Tre: "''It became necessary to destroy the town to save it,' a United States major said today. He was talking about the decision by allied commanders to bomb and shell the town regardless of civilian casualties, to rout the Vietcong." In the same month, Fernand Gigon, in “Connaissance du Monde” (World Knowledge) (No. 111, February 1968), reported the conclusion of a commission sent by some US Churches to investigate vice and immortality in South Vietnam. He reported that the Americans concluded that "“They understand why, in our fight against the communist aggressors, we must use all means of destruction at our disposal.”

Substuting Ukraine of Vietnam, Neo-Nazis for the South Vietnamese supporters of the communist National Liberation Front in South Vietnam (aka Viet Cong), and Russia for the US, it seems to me that history may be repeating itself in Ukraine with the destruction of power plants, dams, hospitals, etc., and probably with a similar outcome. The photo of the last US helicopter evacuating Saigon may yet be replicated by one of Kremlin officials and Russian oligarchs frantically climbing into helicopters on the Kremlin helipad (for which President Vladimir Putin authorized the construction, and which was completed in May 2013).

[Moses]

"So Ukrainians should afraid not "annexing", but "to annoy too much". Because Russia may change that. Russia controls whole Ukrainian sky. Better is do not push."

In one of his dispatches for the Associated Press , published on 7 February 1968, Peter Arnett, a New Zealand-born American correspondent, wrote about the Battle of Bến Tre: "''It became necessary to destroy the town to save it,' a United States major said today. He was talking about the decision by allied commanders to bomb and shell the town regardless of civilian casualties, to rout the Vietcong." In the same month, Fernand Gigon, in “Connaissance du Monde” (World Knowledge) (No. 111, February 1968), reported the conclusion of a commission sent by some US Churches to investigate vice and immortality in South Vietnam. He reported that the Americans concluded that "“They understand why, in our fight against the communist aggressors, we must use all means of destruction at our disposal.”

Substuting Ukraine of Vietnam, Neo-Nazis for the South Vietnamese supporters of the communist National Liberation Front in South Vietnam (aka Viet Cong), and Russia for the US, it seems to me that history may be repeating itself in Ukraine with the destruction of power plants, dams, hospitals, etc., and probably with a similar outcome. The photo of the last US helicopter evacuating Saigon may yet be replicated by one of Kremlin officials and Russian oligarchs frantically climbing into helicopters on the Kremlin helipad (for which President Vladimir Putin authorized the construction, and which was completed in May 2013).

You don't have to go so far to past. Russia is wrong substitution for US.

Center of Mosul in Iraq war:
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Center of Kiev now:
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[Ninodf1]

Is this the longest threadbare in Sawatdee history?

[Moses]

Is this the longest threadbare in Sawatdee history?

Well, COVID era and limits to travels made new travel reports rare, but life is boring, so why not?

[Moses]

Substuting Ukraine of Vietnam, Neo-Nazis for the South Vietnamese supporters of the communist National Liberation Front in South Vietnam (aka Viet Cong), and Russia for the US, it seems to me that history may be repeating itself in Ukraine with the destruction of power plants, dams, hospitals, etc., and probably with a similar outcome. The photo of the last US helicopter evacuating Saigon may yet be replicated by one of Kremlin officials and Russian oligarchs frantically climbing into helicopters on the Kremlin helipad (for which President Vladimir Putin authorized the construction, and which was completed in May 2013).

By the way, I forgot to explain why substitution is wrong.

US were allies of VietKong, now US are allies of Ukraine, like just year ago US were allies of Afghan govt.

So you don't have to remind destiny of VietKong. Is enough to remind destiny of pro-American Afghan govt

On the left evacuation from Saigon, 1975, on the right: evacuation from Kabul, 2021

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