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    Re: The Brink of War?

    Today is October 7th. 21 years ago US have started military intervention against Taliban in Afghanistan.

    Afghanistan is now controlled by Taliban, US ran from country in 2021 after 20 years of failures.

    Total killed: 176,206 (per Brown University) 212,191+ (per UCDP)
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    Yeah, show them who is World Super Power!

    US Rep. Ro Khanna is calling for the White House to retaliate against Saudi Arabia if OPEC and its allies slash oil production in a bid to boost prices.

    “This is beyond the pale,” the California Democrat told CNN in a phone interview on Monday. “They are actively fleecing the American people and destabilizing the economy. That’s just outrageous. Who do they think they are?”

    Oil prices surged more than 5% Monday on reports that Saudi-led OPEC and its allies, known as OPEC+, plan to sharply cut oil output by more than 1 million barrels per day. Such a move would be the largest production cuts since 2020 and could be announced on Wednesday when the group meets in Vienna.

    “It’s outrageous. The Saudis need to be dealt with harshly,” said Khanna, a progressive who has been a tough critic of the kingdom’s humanitarian track record. “They are a third-rate power. We are the most powerful country in the world. I don’t know why we kowtow to them.”
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    You forgot to mention, what Ukrainians also Supermans, Batmans, Spider-Mans, Hals Jordan, Thors and Invisible Womans...
    They may not be quite such heroes, but they have been good enough to shatter the morale of Putin's private mercenary force, the Wagner Group - see "Morale is plummeting in Putin’s private army as Russia’s war in Ukraine falters" (https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/06/e...ntl/index.html). Note that the billboard displayed at the beginning of the report is displayed in Russia, more evidence that the Russian Federation supports this Neo-Nazi group, founded by one of Putin's closest allies, Yevgeny Prigozhin - "Putin ally admits he created the Wagner mercenary group linked to wartime atrocities: 'I cleaned old weapons myself" (https://news.yahoo.com/putin-ally-ad...171446334.html).

    More Russian lies exposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Today is October 7th. 21 years ago US have started military intervention against Taliban in Afghanistan.

    Afghanistan is now controlled by Taliban, US ran from country in 2021 after 20 years of failures.

    Total killed: 176,206 (per Brown University) 212,191+ (per UCDP)
    In comparison, in the brutal nine-year conflict (December 24, 1979 – February 15, 1989) of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, an estimated one million civilians were killed, as well as 90,000 Mujaheddin fighters, 18,000 Afghan troops, and 14,500-15,000 Soviet soldiers. The civil war that raged after the withdrawal set the stage for the Taliban's takeover of the country in 1996.

    As in Ukraine, the Soviet-Russian army committed numerous war crimes, including massacres, rapes, wanton destruction, torture, and looting.

    The reason why the Taliban controlled Afghanistan when the US invaded was because of the failures of the Soviet army. The failure of the Soviet army in Afghanistan was a contributing factor in the disintegration of the Soviet Union.

    Perhaps Putin should have remembered what happened the last time Russian forces entered an independent country.

    At least this time it hasn't taken the Russians nine years to retreat - they are retreating after not even nine months this time!

    And remember than in 1979 the population of the Soviet Union was over 262,000,000 million while that of Afghanistan was around 13.4,000,000, i.e. 262:13.4. A massive imbalance - in Afghan favor, obviously.

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    Wagner group is private company. Nazi battalions Azov, Aydar and other are part of Ukrainian army. Shame on you. Pitiful attempts to advocate Nazi Ukraine...

    BBC about Azov:
    Run by the extremist Patriot of Ukraine organisation, which considers Jews and other minorities "sub-human" and calls for a white, Christian crusade against them, it sports three Nazi symbols on its insignia: a modified Wolf's Hook, a black sun (or "Hakensonne") and the title Black Corps, which was used by the Waffen SS.
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    Re: The Brink of War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonman View Post
    And remember than in 1979 the population of the Soviet Union was over 262,000,000 million while that of Afghanistan was around 13.4,000,000, i.e. 262:13.4. A massive imbalance - in Afghan favor, obviously.
    US population is 300 000 000 did it help US to win?
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    Moses, you don't seem to understand how this whole thing works. You do realize we're now at the point where Russians are risking their lives by taking small boats across the Artic Ocean to Alaska to apply for asylum, right? At what point do you Russians realize this isn't going in your favor? If current reports are to be believed, Russia is currently bleeding 350,000 military aged men a week as they flee the country in all directions.

    At what point do you Russians realize this entire war was a total sham and lie? There was never a threat to Russia. It was totally made up by some old dude named Putin who was on a power trip, but at no time was there an actual threat to Russia. Nobody has any desire to invade Russia.

    You do realize that Ukrainian forces are retaking their land every single day, and yet, the West has yet to engage, right? You know there's at least 140,000 NATO soldiers, several fleets of F-35s and son waiting in the wings on the border of Ukrain, willing to engage at any givem moment, right? Russia can't even handle the Ukrainian military, so how do you think it'll go if NATO and the US engages?

    If you want to know what's going on over here in the West, we're all just kind of hanging out waiting for you Russians to get your shit together, march on the Kremlim, and let Putin know he's no longer President.

    You're being fed propoganda. We're your friends, not your enemy. If you want a war though, then I promise you the West will be happy to finish it.

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    Re: The Brink of War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Wagner group is private company. Nazi battalions Azov, Aydar and other are part of Ukrainian army. Shame on you. Pitiful attempts to advocate Nazi Ukraine...

    BBC about Azov:


    Ukraine-news-4-1536x1024.jpg
    Another unsourced and undate photo that says nothing. The BBC report, however, is from 2014: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955. The opening paragraphs of the report are: "Ever since Ukraine's February revolution, the Kremlin has characterised the new leaders in Kiev as a "fascist junta" made up of neo-Nazis and anti-Semites, set on persecuting, if not eradicating, the Russian-speaking population.
    This is demonstrably false. Far-right parties failed to pass a 5% barrier to enter parliament, although if they had banded together, and not split their vote, they would have probably slipped past the threshold.
    Only one government minister has links to nationalist parties - though he is in no way a neo-Nazi or fascist. And the speaker of parliament, Volodymyr Groysman, is Jewish. He has the third most powerful position in the country after the president and prime minister."

    Not at all what you though it meant.

    You are repeating yourself, and displaying a lack of knowledge. I believe Russia's constitution does not permit Putin to employ a mercenary army, which is why his friend started the Wagner Group and why Russia has employed it in the Middle East and Ukraine. Ukraine absorbed the Azov Battalion into its armed forces under the former President because it was the better fighting force and because absorption gave the Ukrainian military a measure of control over its operations.

    Please find something new on which to comment.

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    US population is 300 000 000 did it help US to win?
    At last you get the point!!

    The size of the US population did not help them win, anymore that your endless repeating of "You forgot: 145:22. Ukrainian end is unavoidable" is an indication of the outcome of this war, particularly as you even get both population sizes wrong. What applied in the American case also applies here!!

    The size of the Russian population will not be a deciding factor in this war. Almost 16% of the Russian population is over 65 years old, about 18% of the population is under the age of 15 years old, and women outnumber men. The size of the population by itself means nothing!

    "The only question: how much it will cost to Russia and West" is an indication of the outcome of this "war," as I believe Russian TV commentators are now permitted to call it after it has lasted 7 months and 2 weeks, rather than the couple of days Putin originally thought it would take to conquer Ukraine. From reports of what Russian TV commentators are saying, they are beginning to worry that the cost to Russia may be more than they can comfortably contemplate. I suspect that there will be no safe post-war hiding places for large numbers of Russian politicians and oligarchs in future.

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    Re: The Brink of War?

    Nobel Peace Prize to activists from Belarus, Russia, Ukraine - By Associated Press, 2022/10/07 18:44 Taiwan Time.

    " This year’s Nobel Peace Prize was awarded Friday to jailed Belarus rights activist Ales Bialiatski, the Russian group Memorial and the Ukrainian organization Center for Civil Liberties, a strong rebuke to Russia’s President Vladimir Putin on his 70th birthday.
    Berit Reiss-Andersen, chair of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, said the panel wanted to honor ”three outstanding champions of human rights, democracy and peaceful coexistence in the neighbor countries Belarus, Russia and Ukraine” (https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4680061).

    It's not a rebuke - it's a public slap in the face.

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