A “phycologist”? Is that the sort of person who gives a phlying phuck?Originally Posted by gerefan2
A “phycologist”? Is that the sort of person who gives a phlying phuck?
gerefan2 (January 22nd, 2022)
Surely you meant Proctologists?
Patanawet (January 23rd, 2022)
What's wrong with walls and doors? when Boyztown was thriving and didn't even have enforced closing times, the music was contained within the bars and did not disrupt those who wanted to chat with the guys and with friends. Or sleep at 0300.
Now, the bars are open to the world; no walls, no doors.. The fashion for letting the music take over the soi is relatively new and began after Thob closed.
The enclosed bars entertained hundreds (BBB, Cockpit/Throb et al). The open bars were entertaining a couple of dozen when I was last there.
At the same time, three gay hotels were being affected to their detriment. Something, by the way, the managers complained about. And were ignored.
During my early visits to Thailand Boyztown was my home-away-from-home. I loved it...spent every night there...and didn't mind the loud music at all. BUT, I never once considered staying in one of the hotels you're referencing because I wanted peace and quiet when my head hit the pillow. I never could figure out why guys who are bothered by loud music, (which would bother me too if I was trying to relax or sleep), would stay in these places. Go figure!
I made the mistake during my first visit to Phuket buy staying in a room right above a bar in Paradise Complex. The bass speakers were so loud that the pictures on the walls in my room were tilted...I kid you not. The boy I had with me that night just sat in the bed laughing. I checked out the next morning and found a B&B a few blocks away which worked out fine.
As my mind wanders...I remember sitting with a small group of boys in the old Butterfly Karaoke (Soi Day/Night - behind the old Hollywood Disco) listening to a ladyboy lip-syncing a Thai pop song which was playing at full volume. The place was packed...drinks were flowing...everyone was having a great time. Then, in walks a farang with a few boys in tow who sat in the circular sofa right next to ours. The minute the waiter walked up to his table he started making these strange facial expressions while simultaneously holding both ears. He then abruptly demanded that the waiter have the music volume lowered. The boys who were with him just looked down at the ground in embarrassment, as did the waiter. The music played on...as did the farangs continuous complaining, until the manager (a stocky ladyboy mamasan) finally came to his table - handed him his bin - and asked him to leave.
That is true. Many boys complained about it, but the volume was kept at that range anyway. I think it is not only mistaken, but insulting to one's intelligence to try to pass off customers who don't like music volume at a level that blasts eardrums and is actually physically dangerous as old farts who just don't understand young people. Maybe it's the people saying that who really are the ones who don't understand young people, no matter how much they've convinced themselves that they do.
The music volume debate is certainly nothing new. Long before Covid for years we were debating it. As far as I know, nothing changed.
At go-go bars where the music volume is excessively loud, are the boys dancing any better than at go-go bars playing music at a sensible level? Are they making more eye contact with customers? Are they doing any more to get customers to take them off? I've never noticed better boy behavior at bars playing excessively loud music, certainly no better than at bars playing music at a sensible level.
I have no idea why some are actually trying to justify music volume being played at such levels. I, for one, will not be among those who think excessively loud music is a great idea. And it will also be difficult to convince me that many on this board truly enjoy it. Some might be pretending to enjoy it or are trying to convince themselves they truly enjoy it, but I believe that's as far as it goes.
I kind of hate to bring this up, but some of you may remember that a city ordinance exists prohibiting the music volume to exceed 90 decibels, a volume level they compared to the volume level of a passing motorbike. So, any venue playing music exceeding 90 decibels is breaking the law.
I recall when this ordinance was first enacted the police were out there vigorously enforcing it. I think the enforcement lasted nearly a full week . . .
What a stupid debate this is. It's like going to a swimming pool then complaining to the lifeguard there's too many women in bikinis and you think they should be wearing one piece's instead.
It's just dumb.
You should feel right at home
There are numerous medical reports that identify loud-noise as being detrimental to health. Some of the guys who work in Boyztown will pay the price of reduced hearing in middle-age and beyond.
By the way, this danger includes professional musicians who play in orchestras, hence the changes that are being made to ensure that those who sit directly in front of the brass section are protected.
And what we are talking about here is electronically- produced sounds emanating from huge speakers that can be heard, not just in Boyztown, but in surrounding areas.
Why?
As a twelve-year old I sang in the boys' choir in a Royal Albert Hall performance of Mahler's Eighth Symphony- the "Symphony of a Thousand", and even that number of performers couldn't compete with the array of massive loud-speakers we see nowadays, piled on top of one another.
Keep the d****d things behind closed doors if you have to have them. Throb, by the way, had a superb system- the best I've ever heard and I'm a hi-fi enthusiast- immeasurably superior to the home made stuff we see on the streets. And inoffensive to the community.
This discussion has been on the forum since I joined (2009). I don't like loud music, and before I enter a gogo bar, I take a look if there are enough boys on stage to make it worth my time and money, and I judge the music volume and if too high I tell staff "too loud" and leave.
If the boys in gogo bar or disco justify spending time there, but music is too loud, I put in my earplugs or tissue. Rather be "the guy with the earplugs" now than "the hard-of hearing guy" later in life. I have seen boys with tissue in their ears for the same reason.
The tissue in their ears is probably to prevent listening to your complaining all night...LOL
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