Light at the end of the tunnel?

[Oliver2]

Taking responsibility for themselves is fine, as long as it doesn't involve threatening the welfare, health and even lives of fellow citizens. it is reasonable for society to expect that those who are dangerous - drunk drivers, mask/vaccine refuses, for example- to be restrained. After all, we don't leave it up to drivers to decide whether they drink alcohol. nor (in most countries) swagger about with guns.

[StevieWonders]

Taking responsibility for themselves is fine, as long as it doesn't involve threatening the welfare, health and even lives of fellow citizens. it is reasonable for society to expect that those who are dangerous - drunk drivers, mask/vaccine refuses, for example- to be restrained. After all, we don't leave it up to drivers to decide whether they drink alcohol. nor (in most countries) swagger about with guns.

The Catholic Church has long since held a similar belief; ordinary people can’t be trusted. It was formerly known as “No salvation outside the Church “ - nowadays it’s the dictates of the State outside which society cannot survive