With a vaccine, COVID makes hardly any difference to our odds of dying in the next year.
So get rid of all restrictions, so those who want to enjoy life may do so. Those who don't like it can still choose to hide at home, looking at pictures of body bags in trenches and finding other ways to be miserable.
christianpfc (November 25th, 2021), gerefan2 (November 25th, 2021)
Originally Posted by goji
I'm with you on that one. It's at the point that if you're too stupid to get the jab because you think Bill Gates wants to microchip you or whatever the
bullshit conspiracy theory of the day is, then it's kind of on you. I'd go as far as to put in laws saying if you're unvaccinated and end up in the hospital with Covid, then the medical bills are on you. Apparently, it's costing over $100k per-patient in Canada to treat someone with Covid, and the vast majority aren't vaccinated. Idiots.
Nonetheless, we as a society unfortunately seem to have to cater to the weakest link.
However, Matt, goji's stupidity is that of the ideologue - that vaccination makes no difference. See this article for a rebuttal - https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination
Well, I've come to the realization that you can't fix stupid, and instead just need to wait for Darwin's theory to work its magic, so not much I can do about that one.
The science is pretty black and white now, and we have data to backup everything as according to the New York Times at least 54.6% of us humans on this planet have had at least one jab now. We're not all flopping dead, so it's safe, and it's also very very well proven to be effective.
Ruthrieston (November 26th, 2021)
"The majority of people in intensive care units are the unvaccinated,"
Robb Butler
WHO Europe.
Nirish guy (November 25th, 2021), Patanawet (November 25th, 2021), Ruthrieston (November 26th, 2021)
Spanish Health Minister Carolina Darias: "unvaccinated elderly 25 times more at risk of dying from Covid-19"
The breakdown of coronavirus data by vaccination status also highlighted the vaccines’ effectiveness in preventing infection and serious cases of Covid-19. Between September 20 and November 14 of this year, the population aged 60 to 80 was eight times more at risk of contracting the virus, and 18 times more likely to be hospitalized if they were unvaccinated.
https://english.elpais.com/society/2...accinated.html
It seems that for vaccinated, living normal life, with precautions, makes sense. What is there to wait, zero infections? That day will never come.
goji (November 25th, 2021)
Exactly. I think the majority of us have moved onto the endemnic phase of this whole Covi thing.
Whatever phase you want to call it the British or Canadian data are not to be swallowed hook, line and sinker.
The latest Japanese trend shows a rapidly decline in infectious cases a few weeks after the health authorities approved the use of ivermectin in the prophylaxis and treatment of the Covid-19 virus. They have also observed that genetic factors in the population are preventing specific components of the virus from destroying the host cells. At the other end of the world, although the citizens of Gibraltar are almost 100% vaccinated, infection is still taking place. Other statistics have shown that the wearing of masks can reduce infection by more than 50%. In the end whether you easily succumb to the infection is partly due to your genes and the concomitant presence of other diseases of body and mind.
That's very interesting, dinagam.
I watch the Japanese news almost every day but have never heard any of that.
I'm not saying it is wrong, but I just wonder where you got that information from. It's quite possible that I may have missed it on the news.
Have you taken a look at Japan's vaccination rate? It skyrocketed, and they're at over 80% vaccinated now.
Maybe, just maybe that has something to do with the drop in cases and not the horse de-worming medication.
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